AWE DVD

Nov. 12th, 2007 07:47 pm
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The DVD is out in some parts of the world already, and I was reading a scan of part of the box in someone's journal. (I won't say who they are just in case they don't want anyone to know, or get swamped - unless they give me explicit permission for a link.) Since this person has posted a link to their entry in a discussion community, I feel safe in now providing the direct link if you haven't yet seen it.

Two interesting things:

First question: What does the future hold for Will and Elizabeth? Now that he's captain of the Flying Dutchman, is she going to wait for him? Answer: True love never dies, but their story is yet to be told.

Second: Since Will honored his destiny on the Flying Dutchman, in 10 years does he get to return to land for good, thereby freeing his father and crew? Answer: Every 10 years, Will may step on land for one day. He is bound to the Flying Dutchman forever.

There are a few others, too. I don't know if these are on the U.S. DVD, but I'm betting they are. Be interesting to see what fandom reaction is to these (especially that second one, given the writers' insistence on the "only 10 years' service" thing) ...

Date: 2007-11-13 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
I had all kinds of theories for that flash of green, from James being resurrected, to Elizabeth getting pregnant (technically, *part* of Will is left alive in the world after he leaves), to crewmembers being freed from the Dutchman (but I would think they'd die, not come back to life). Hell, I don't know, LOL.

I think the Liz story's been told quite enough, actually. If they think there's a big enough audience for more, separate it out into its own series and see how much money she's capable of raking in without Jack's (or Barbossa's) presence. ;-) (To be fair, I don't think any character but Jack would have a chance of drawing in that much audience at the top of the marquee.)

Date: 2007-11-13 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elessil.livejournal.com
I heard the T&T theory is glitch in editing, let's says it's the Dutchman crew being freed (Of course, that THEN doesn't explain why Bootstrap can be aboard and Lizzie can)...so...it HAS to be James. (hey, it's a Disney movie! Sperm doesn't exist, and the stork...well, no green flash for it) Lalalala denial is my friend!

Oh yes, that's a lovely idea. Split the Lizzie series from the rest, so the poor Liz fans aren't bothered with the unimportant stuff. The unimportant stuff featuring Jack, Barbossa, and a resurrected James. Will can guest star. *cough* well, I supposed he'd have to feature in the Liz show's pilot, before he's moved to the lesser show...

Date: 2007-11-13 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stabbycutlass.livejournal.com
Freed crewmen wouldn't be going to the Other World on the Dutchman, just as Liz can't in the movie. They wouldn't have been able to make the extended journey any more.

Date: 2007-11-13 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elessil.livejournal.com
My point exactly.

Ergo green flash must be James. *points to icon*
Edited Date: 2007-11-13 07:46 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-11-13 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stabbycutlass.livejournal.com
Or, the freed crew are dropped off at Shipwreck Cove along with Lizzie. ^_^()

Date: 2007-11-13 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stabbycutlass.livejournal.com
Sorry, edit feature is not available to me...but in the case of Bootstrap, he's not set free given admitted debt to Will.

Date: 2007-11-13 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elessil.livejournal.com
Since they're all fish-free LONG before the green flash, they don't need it. (well, seriously - one can pretty much do anything with them without any need for green flashes. So they can't go hogging 'em when my Navy pretty needs it ;) )

Date: 2007-11-13 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stabbycutlass.livejournal.com
^_^() I'm not trying to steal the green flash from James. Lord knows, he needs it more. Just saying that fish free =/= unbound from the Dutchman, or else Bootstrap and his beloved starfish were denied a beautiful reunion scene.

Date: 2007-11-13 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elessil.livejournal.com
ROFL! I am just imagining that...romantic background music, the starfish hesitantly approaching, then they hug, and it reattaches itself with a loud sucking noise....

OK, too visual, too visual...

Date: 2007-11-13 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
OMG WTF ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING TO MY JOURNAL????

Date: 2007-11-14 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elessil.livejournal.com
*points to icon and whistles most innocently*

Of course, Bootstrap could give the starfish to Liz, as a sort of wedding gift form daddy-in-law...who knows where it might attach itself...

Date: 2007-11-14 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
*tries mightily to resist, face turns red, sweat pours off, before giving in just for the sound of it said out loud*

TO THE BURNING COOTER!

Date: 2007-11-14 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elessil.livejournal.com
You just HAD to do it, hmm?

*cackles*

Date: 2007-11-13 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stabbycutlass.livejournal.com
*pop in to defend theory*

If Bootstrap didn't drop dead when Will told him he was free, don't see why the rest have to do so.

*scamper off*

Date: 2007-11-13 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
Consider, though, that Bootstrap didn't accept his freedom, so maybe one has to be complicit in wanting to leave the ship, as well? Also, if you do die and you're on the sea, you gotta be ferried Over anyway ... why drop dead on the deck? You can be far more useful helping the crew on the way there. *G*

Date: 2007-11-13 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stabbycutlass.livejournal.com
Well, if the others asked for thier freedom from Will, I don't see Will really denying them. He offered freedom to Bootstrap, so I just extrapolatw that he can grant whatever freedom he was going to give his father, he can give the others.

If its freedom in the sense that their souls now belong to them again and not the Dutchman, and they can live as mortals, then not only does it explain the green flash as the Dutchman leaves pre-credits, but also for Will's flash as he returns post-credits. One would have thought that he was returning to a mortal life with his soul also unbound to the Dutchman, but whatever.

Date: 2007-11-14 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
I'm not sure if they can come back or not, to the land of the living. I really think that green flash was just done for effect - the *finality* of knowing there's been a crossover, that Will is lost to Elizabeth for at least ten years, to induce some sniffles in the audience ... although the fact they'd already said it means coming back to the land of the living makes no sense at all. *shrug*

Date: 2007-11-14 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stabbycutlass.livejournal.com
That's basically another thing the theory is trying to rectify; green flash is when a soul comes back from the other side. But what you say is essentially what they did, but I'm trying to apply logic of the fannish kind. Which may not actually be logic at all, hehe.

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