More fandom wank, part II

[veronica_rich]

And I actually wanked on this one. (Honestly, I only gave my opinion in the comments, which was fairly mild, I think. Where else can I bitch about things that have no importance in the real world, my job, or my friends and family, but LiveJournal? This is what happens when you travel under a pseudonym. *G*)

OK, sports fans, read on: http://community.livejournal.com/arrrrr/362879.html

This post is very image-intensive; if you don't have a DSL or cable connection, you'll be waiting a while for it to download. If there are any J/E 'shippers on my list, I would particularly enjoy hearing your comments in MY journal entry here on this, with respect to if you feel either Jack's or Elizabeth's character has been altered to such degree to achieve these ends as to render them unrecognizable from the Jack and/or Elizabeth you like.

And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe each of them had this in them all along and there's nothing despicable about it?

Comments

[chibikat-wtf.livejournal.com]

And the ending, with Elizabeth all gung-ho in the front - "I shall lead us all to Captain Jack Sparrow, my pirate LOVE OF MY LIFE OMG!!!!11" Will's just like "K."

That was fucked up.

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

Yeah ... she wasn't sitting in the corner crying at all, was she? What about that "I'd even go to Davy Jones's locker if I have to!"

*eyebrow*

[scifiroots.livejournal.com]

See, that was totally the "I gotta laugh or cry or both" point. ;;^^ The random huzzah toast and then Lizzie's really creepily gung-ho after the ewwy kiss of DOOM. And her creepy uber-femme panel when Jack's all uber-creepy-macho with huge hand touching her face. o.0;;

I mean, this totally was my huge reminder of why in general I hate American comics and cartoons as a opposed to general Japanese manga/anime.

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

why in general I hate American comics and cartoons as a opposed to general Japanese manga/anime

Not to mention that manga DOES acknowledge that m/m relationships do exist.

And her creepy uber-femme panel when Jack's all uber-creepy-macho with huge hand touching her face

I noted that, as well. Him seizing her up against him in her cabin at night?? What is this, a Johanna Lindsay pirate-rape romance novel?

This whole thing is just an assassination of both Jack AND Elizabeth. They're better characters than that, their actors are better than that (as evidenced in the execution of those scenes, as opposed to how they're written for the comic), and it's just ugly.

[scifiroots.livejournal.com]

Not to mention that manga DOES acknowledge that m/m relationships do exist.
=) I love that anime/manga is as wide in the variety of genre and plot elements as our entire collection of literature. ^_~

I noted that, as well. Him seizing her up against him in her cabin at night?? What is this, a Johanna Lindsay pirate-rape romance novel?
Wasn't that creepy? *shudders* That really grossed me out. Plus she looked so creepily young. The clothes made her look like she was a little kid playing dress-up in her parents' clothes.

I quite agree that it just slaughters the characters. I've eyed the T-shirts and birthday party supplies with the comic drawings and just been really appalled long before I saw the comic panels. It's just a gross, bare style that lacks artistic talent and acknowledgement of how the actors bring the characters to life. (I had to say I'm continually weirded out and rather uncomfortable with all the Jack toys, etc. that's out there... it's just so strange how mainstream Jack--who I basically Johnny Depp as to be honest--is.)

[chibikat-wtf.livejournal.com]

Elizabeth: Take up arms, crew, for we must SAVE JACK!
Will: ...Captain Jack.
Elizabeth: Actually, I'm the captain now.
Will: Wait, how -
Elizabeth: No time for questions, puny blacksmith! I, with my cunning wit, incredibly mad sword skills, and delightfully perky breasts shall single-handedly save my pirate love, and Jack and I shall be married, and we shall have lots of poorly written sex and babies!
Barbossa: Actually, Miss Swan, ye forget I'm the one leadin' this -
Elizabeth: Silence, Plot Device! I need neither your heading nor your large hat, for I am Elizabeth Swann, goddess and Mary Sue! *stomps off*
Barbossa: ...
Will: ... *coughs*
Barbossa: ...prob'ly fer the best ye never had yer weddin' night, boy, else ye just might've ended up a eunuch.

~*Fin.*~

[metalkatt.livejournal.com]

Those last two lines are just the ultimate win.

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

You deserve a cookie! (I've already awarded the Internet for the day to someone else, apologies.)

What a sad turn of affairs. Even when the movie itself (and the actors, working against a tide of trite writing, it seems) doesn't explicitly bear it out in a scene, Goddess Izzy must trump all else, including common sense and evidence to the contrary. Which is bad, because I liked Elizabeth in the first movie, and most of the way through this one.

[scifiroots.livejournal.com]

rflmao.

Someone needs to draw that out. *snickers* I'd volunteer if only my drawing skills would be a madd good as Lizzie's madd 1337 sword skills these days. =p (Although I am having fun drawing Tia Dalma like characters ^_~)

[vejiicakes.livejournal.com]

At the suggestion of veronica_rich, I'd like to try my hand at illustrating this into a short fancomic, if you wouldn't mind too terribly ^__^;;

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

Heh, heh, heh ..... This oughtta be good.

[vejiicakes.livejournal.com]

If you don't see anything by the end of August, you'll know I've given up.

[chibikat-wtf.livejournal.com]

Lmfao, that would be awesome! ...man, I should type out this kind of randomness more often. XP