To paraphrase ...

[veronica_rich]

... the erstwhile fabu, if you want me to look at your art and comment, or read your story, it helps not to just throw in random character-bashing in the product description. While I realize a great deal of fanfic apparently can't exist without the crushing defeat, emasculation, or villainizing of a non-villain character I like, I was not aware visual arts that don't even feature the character in question could fall under the same guidelines. When you draw a perfectly cute little scene that I would otherwise happily comment upon and feel the need to note that it's celebrating getting rid of said character (when such information is really not germane to the drawing), you can expect no comment from me. :-D

Oh, sure, it's your art, and you can say what you want in your own journal. Just don't expect as much feedback as you might've gotten otherwise, especially if you're going to crosspost to general communities where everyone may not appreciate your bon mot as much as your pairing-specific friends do. I know too many artists who don't resort to throwing in random desultory comments when presenting their work, and they're more deserving of praise.

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[theoneissilent.livejournal.com]

My curiosity got the better of me and I scrolled back over my flist and found the drawing (can't bring myself to call it artwork) you were talking about. Normally I just skip over anything that appears to be Jack/Elizabeth oriented because I figure it won't be favorable towards my boy. I have enough stress in my life, thank you very much, and I don't need to get upset by thoughtless (read that witless) people. The best way to avoid, is to ignore. I love Will......period. I do not understand how anyone can hate the character, but to each his own. I don't bash other characters and I don't think its funny or cute to say disparaging things about something or someone that other people like - especially in a fandom that is supposed to celebrate ALL the characters. The thing that bothered me the most about the post though, was the way she just blew it off as being surprised that the "Will" people would take it seriously or be offended by it.P-L-E-A-S-E.
We all know that if we said something like that about Jack in a forum that was dedicated to all the characters, we'd be ripped to shreads! Why isn't Will afforded the same amount of courtesy as the other characters? I know I shouldn't let this bother me, but I am soooooooo tired of people bashing my beautiful, heroic, selfless boy.

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

Yep. I'd say probably the only other set of fans who have as legitimate a complaint as we do about the bashing in fandom are Elizabeth fans. It seems like she and Will are the only ones consistently picked at - and the hell of it is, you know the attitude behind it is that junior-high "if you like this, YOU must be stupid, too." *eyeroll*

[theoneissilent.livejournal.com]

I guess I never noticed the Elizabeth bashing thing because up until the 3rd movie, I really didn't like her. I was mildly annoyed by her in the first movie 'cause I though she was sort of spoiled and self centered ( I can still see her telling Jack that the whole Navy will be out looking for HER). By the end of the second movie I actually loathed her. She wanted to be all independent and free and yet it never stopped her from playing the sex appeal card whenever it served her purpose. Not an admirable trait in my book. And even though I was prepared to dislike her in the third movie, I think she finally matured as a character. She finally ran into a situation that she could neither control or manipulate - her father's death. That was the start of it. She actually started to understand that she is not the center of the universe. She was pissed at Will for his betrayal because she never expected it from him, but when she met his father she started to understand Will's dilemma. She started to understand that even though he loves her, he does have other obligations. And excuse me, but from her reaction to Will's injury and subsequent death, this is not a woman that would be partying and celebrating that she got "rid" of Will. Maybe Anonymous there doesn't think anything about a little "throwaway" comment, but I wonder how some people would react if I had a picture of Elizabeth dancing and laughing after DMC and my comment would be "I just fed Jack to the Kraken...ha ha ha". It would be classless.....'nuf said.

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

Even the annoyances I had with DMC Elizabeth, I went into AWE with an open mind, partly because I knew how it would end and I figured I'd do well just to keep up without getting all teary over Will anyway. *G*

But the scenes between her and Will struggling to communicate/not talk about the elephant in the room really got to me - I liked them. While he thought she was in love with Jack, her response didn't strike me that way at all - it was more "I did something bad, I can't contemplate how horrible it was, and if I do this successfully, I won't have to anymore." And then she lost her dad, and for a little while, I was still all snarky about J/E (I mean, PLEASE - her presence is what jolts Jack out of his delirium. It's not because he's in love with her, it's because he doesn't think it odd if those other people are in his dreamscape. And when she runs to jump in after Weatherby, I notice he's the only one who doesn't follow - hell, even Barbossa chases her. How concerned for her safety can he be?). But when she met Bill, that's what did it. THAT is where Bill earned his keep, as far as I'm concerned - pulling her attention off herself and onto Will, from his POV for a change.