More fandom wank, part II

[veronica_rich]

And I actually wanked on this one. (Honestly, I only gave my opinion in the comments, which was fairly mild, I think. Where else can I bitch about things that have no importance in the real world, my job, or my friends and family, but LiveJournal? This is what happens when you travel under a pseudonym. *G*)

OK, sports fans, read on: http://community.livejournal.com/arrrrr/362879.html

This post is very image-intensive; if you don't have a DSL or cable connection, you'll be waiting a while for it to download. If there are any J/E 'shippers on my list, I would particularly enjoy hearing your comments in MY journal entry here on this, with respect to if you feel either Jack's or Elizabeth's character has been altered to such degree to achieve these ends as to render them unrecognizable from the Jack and/or Elizabeth you like.

And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe each of them had this in them all along and there's nothing despicable about it?

Comments

[vejiicakes.livejournal.com]

You know, as little as I cared for Elizabeth seducing Jack in DMC (I can't say for sure if she could've outwitted him--they seem like they'd be pretty even for smarts, but Jack's much more experienced in matters of mind games, I should think), I can't say I much like the way she just passively lets Jack lay hands on her. Melts into him, in many panels.

"...And the woman he loves?"

And Elizabeth is leading this little expedition? O_O I mean, Jesus, don't get me wrong; under pretty much any circumstances, I'd jump for joy at a woman, Elizabeth especially, taking charge like that. But given what we just fucking saw and everything, it's like... WTF?

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

More than I like seeing women empowered - more than I like anything else in fiction, honestly - I like to see writing that makes sense. In the movie, she chains Jack to his ship to be eaten; that's bad enough, because it's not a logical progression of development I would expect from Elizabeth. But at least afterward, she's eventually weepy and guilty and appropriately hangdog for such a heinous act. In the comic, she's all bouncy about going to save Jack at the end LIKE SHE'S NOT THE ONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS DEATH.

I'm not prejudicial; the behavior I hate to see from female characters, I don't much like seeing from male characters, either.

Oh, and all that melting? Pulling her to him in his cabin? Putting his big macho hands all over her? Dear lord! Johnny is barely bigger than Keira, LOL.

[vejiicakes.livejournal.com]

Barely so very much more masculine than her in facial features, either. My god, the eyebrows... O_O

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

Scary-Brow(TM)! You could knit a blanket from those!