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veronica_richMy sister and I went to see The Movie Sequel tonight. The short version is I haven't figured out just how I feel about this movie yet.
These are *extremely* random thoughts, as it is late and I need to sleep.
Let's just get the first part out of the way. I have never found much attraction in a J/E dynamic. They're too much alike, and they'd never actually last beyond some de-lusting sex. One would eventually have to kill the other and take over the ship, LOL. So this was not my favorite part of the movie. THAT SAID ... I can appreciate the dynamic the writers were perhaps going for. They wanted to do something unexpected and shake things up.
Is it just me, or did this one go out of its way to heterosexualize Jack as much as possible? Just wondering if I'm the only one who saw that, or if I'm just making shit up.
Will getting his own story was quite nice. He gets to meet his father (and we get to see where he gets his "noble" streak!), and I'm right - he does get his eyes from his mother. *G* His whole attitude toward Davy Jones in challenging him, the whole lashing thing up on deck - damn. Our little simple blacksmith has grown up.
Speaking of which - I think Will was PISSED OFF at the end. Sitting there throwing his knife into the table, not saying anything, and then suddenly asking if Elizabeth wanted to find Jack ... ohhhhh, someone's going to get an ass-kicking in the third movie. Thing is, will it be Jack, or Elizabeth? Jack is a pirate, and honestly, Will shouldn't expect anything different. Elizabeth however ... ah, there's the rub. She isn't supposed to do the things Jack does.
I think Barbossa should totally take Elizabeth off Jack's and Will's hands. Now there's a duo that could go places together.
What was up with Jack trading Will for his own soul? I have to admit, that's the only part I'm still having trouble squaring with my Turrow fondness. I know Jack is opportunistic (read above), but was the whole purpose simply to tear down the perception you get of him in the first movie (when you think he's backstabbing, but then he turns into this good man - so is this movie supposed to do the opposite)?
THEN AGAIN - Will *did* show up expecting Jack to just turn over his compass without fully explaining why, and then pulled a sword on the man on his own ship. It could be said Jack was simply giving Will a taste of his own medicine - "Fuck with me, will you, boy? All right, then ..."
They did have a few "moments" though, perhaps the best being Will showing up on the island. "How'd you get here?" "Sea turtles, mate. Strapped one to each foot." "Not as easy as it looks, is it?" *LOVES*
And, as much as the Turrow part of me disliked it, I must admit I snickered when Jack whacked Will with the oar - I leaned over to my sister and muttered, "Payback's a bitch, isn't it?"
I have a pointed question for the Turrow 'shippers on my f-list who get this far: Can you, or can you not work around what's been given you by this new canon? Because ... I sort of think I still can. *G*
More later, I'm sure.
These are *extremely* random thoughts, as it is late and I need to sleep.
Let's just get the first part out of the way. I have never found much attraction in a J/E dynamic. They're too much alike, and they'd never actually last beyond some de-lusting sex. One would eventually have to kill the other and take over the ship, LOL. So this was not my favorite part of the movie. THAT SAID ... I can appreciate the dynamic the writers were perhaps going for. They wanted to do something unexpected and shake things up.
Is it just me, or did this one go out of its way to heterosexualize Jack as much as possible? Just wondering if I'm the only one who saw that, or if I'm just making shit up.
Will getting his own story was quite nice. He gets to meet his father (and we get to see where he gets his "noble" streak!), and I'm right - he does get his eyes from his mother. *G* His whole attitude toward Davy Jones in challenging him, the whole lashing thing up on deck - damn. Our little simple blacksmith has grown up.
Speaking of which - I think Will was PISSED OFF at the end. Sitting there throwing his knife into the table, not saying anything, and then suddenly asking if Elizabeth wanted to find Jack ... ohhhhh, someone's going to get an ass-kicking in the third movie. Thing is, will it be Jack, or Elizabeth? Jack is a pirate, and honestly, Will shouldn't expect anything different. Elizabeth however ... ah, there's the rub. She isn't supposed to do the things Jack does.
I think Barbossa should totally take Elizabeth off Jack's and Will's hands. Now there's a duo that could go places together.
What was up with Jack trading Will for his own soul? I have to admit, that's the only part I'm still having trouble squaring with my Turrow fondness. I know Jack is opportunistic (read above), but was the whole purpose simply to tear down the perception you get of him in the first movie (when you think he's backstabbing, but then he turns into this good man - so is this movie supposed to do the opposite)?
THEN AGAIN - Will *did* show up expecting Jack to just turn over his compass without fully explaining why, and then pulled a sword on the man on his own ship. It could be said Jack was simply giving Will a taste of his own medicine - "Fuck with me, will you, boy? All right, then ..."
They did have a few "moments" though, perhaps the best being Will showing up on the island. "How'd you get here?" "Sea turtles, mate. Strapped one to each foot." "Not as easy as it looks, is it?" *LOVES*
And, as much as the Turrow part of me disliked it, I must admit I snickered when Jack whacked Will with the oar - I leaned over to my sister and muttered, "Payback's a bitch, isn't it?"
I have a pointed question for the Turrow 'shippers on my f-list who get this far: Can you, or can you not work around what's been given you by this new canon? Because ... I sort of think I still can. *G*
More later, I'm sure.
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This rambles for days...
Date: 2006-07-07 10:32 am (UTC)I really liked it, but I thought, like you, that some parts were a bit weird. I was questioning whether my love of Turrow was the cause of it, but yo explained it nicely - Ms Swan and Captain Sparrow are too much alike. The thing is, each is right about the other - she wants freedom and adventure, he wants to be admired for something people don't want him dead for as well.
Please, give me your opinion of the three-way sword fight. I think it's an interesting idea, but the way that abandoned, decrepit mill showed up was weird, and the rolling, while great for action and hilarity, had a flair of the ridiculous.
And the ending - omg, the ending. I nearly cried - I love all manner of crossovers, bringing people back from the dead, revisiting old stories. GODDAMN, I can't believe they want me to wait til next summer to see the end. I think that When they all are out on DVD, I'll watch them all straight through (I still need to do that with LOTR, hmm). That ending floored me. I squealed. I'm such a fangirl.
You know what else I cant wait for? Seeing what you do with this new canon. I'm drooling here for some Veronica Rich magic. I'll be stuck to my lappy for days looking for the usual suspects' fanfic.
Re: This rambles for days...
Date: 2006-07-07 04:59 pm (UTC)Yeah, I'm sort of waiting for that myself. The only thing that *immediately* sprang to mind as I was trying to sleep last night was a reunion scene where Will demands to know what the hell Jack was doing, Jack snidely and coolly tries to rebuff or wave him off, and they get into a physical fight that ends in Jack's bunk or on his big table.
Re: This rambles for days...
Date: 2006-07-07 05:02 pm (UTC)Ack, missed this one. I think it was done for effect - "Lookie what we can do!" - but still, I fell for it. Humorous, more than anything, honestly, especially at the end when Will and Norrie climbed out, scowling at one another, and Will immediately falls on his face in the water.