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Pro-life friends and passersby ... Have you been genuinely confused as to why I and other pro-choice people think as we do, or seem disproportionately angry at least once in a while about the whole thing? It isn't because we're heartless, or promiscuous, or have sex on the brain 24/7 (unlike most of the people you're about to read if you click, on that last point). It's because there are people who, in 2012, still view women as baby vending machines who sully themselves by allowing in more than one sperm depositor (or rather, enjoying the quarter going in without wanting the sperm going with it).

This attitude is, sadly, not rare; it was depressingly common where and when I grew up (although thankfully, not in most of my family). Women are more than their reproductive systems; they're not slaves to those systems, or shouldn't be, at least; and they should be treated with at least as much autonomy as any man. Angry, frothing-at-the-mouth misogynists like this blogger need to be classified as "porn" so impressionable children can be filter-blocked from stumbling onto such nasty, destructive filth. I would rather catch my 11-year-old watching consensual sex acts than catch them nodding along to something like this.

Date: 2012-11-08 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] restrainedchaos.livejournal.com
Well, that was a terrifying way to start my morning.

Date: 2012-11-09 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
That's a terrifying way to start out life, but it happens to a lot of little girls, sadly.

Date: 2012-11-09 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] restrainedchaos.livejournal.com
I read some of the comments too. What a horrible idea THAT was.
I don't think I've ever heard/read/seen anything so completely foreign to me before. My brain wants to think it's the result of a really long-standing Onion article/roleplay.

Date: 2012-11-08 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beldar.livejournal.com
(The icon refers to the linked blogpost)

Wow. Even worse than the guy who posted that was the amen corner in the comments

The article ignores the fact that the freedom to "slut" has always been the prerogative of men.

He may have a point on the politics of dependence. If you keep your thralls in fear, convinced that unless they vote your way all their freedoms will be taken away and Jesus won't love them anymore, that's an awful lot of power.

Date: 2012-11-09 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
Oh, he definitely has points. But he's aiming them in the wrong fucking direction. ;-)

(Wholly off topic, but I need to call you guys about Thanksgiving, if you're coming by for a few hours ...?)

Date: 2012-11-08 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bayliss.livejournal.com
WHAT THE FUCK? Did God forget to give them a brain? So, to that man, I'm a Slut, because I'm an unmarried woman.... Grrr. I want to bust some balls hard core.

It's like those damn quiverfull families with 20 kids. Like they don't put a burden on society.

Date: 2012-11-09 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
I don't mind being called a slut. But I don't need the person doing it trying to put himself on a moral pedestal, and anyone else believing it. He should be delusional by himself, not with followers.

Date: 2012-11-09 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bayliss.livejournal.com
He doesn't know how i live , so he has no right to call me a slut. If he knew me and thought I was a slut, that would be different. That's what bothers me.

Using a term like that to blanket an entire group is the gist of my anger. It's like calling all black people gang bangers. It's just not true.

Date: 2012-11-08 09:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-11-09 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
That people like this exist is a travesty.

Date: 2012-11-08 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnnypenn.livejournal.com
This guys is a troll.

Date: 2012-11-09 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
If you mean an asshole, you're right. If you mean nobody could possibly actually think like this, you're fooling yourself. Many men - and enough women to hold back the rest of us - DO.

Date: 2012-11-09 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weyrlady.livejournal.com
I was outraged and horrified right up until he called the GOP a bunch of feminists. Then I had myself a good long laugh. This is clearly performance art!

The comments, now. About them, I am not so sure.

Date: 2012-11-09 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
I'm not sure what he thinks the GOP are empowering women for, precisely, unless its to fulfill their natural destiny as all mothers and wives; that's the argument I usually hear. Because we would ALL be good at that, instead of just those of us who might actually enjoy doing it.

These people's concept of "choice" is just entirely absent. They don't realize that when they force people to take on an unwanted role, it devalues those who really want to do that thing.

Date: 2012-11-10 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-silver-rose.livejournal.com
Hmmm . . . I clicked on the link twice, but went to an error 404 page. Maybe it got taken down?

Date: 2012-11-10 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
Taken down and BOMBED would be fine by me.

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