Good trip and fictional musings
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veronica_richThree weeks ago, my friend Susan got married, to a college professor she's known for more than a year. Like me, Susan is in her almost-mid-30s and I didn't think she'd ever get married, even though she did date and had lived with a guy before this one. At any rate, she was never searching for a husband, so I think that's the best way to go. (Unlike me - I do not live well with other humans, and I know this from experience. Sex would not abate that.)
Last night I went to her delayed wedding reception, and met a lot of new people (and some old ones, from the wedding and once or twice before, mostly his friends who'd adopted her into their circle). Susan was telling me how I ought to move closer to them (they live 100 miles from me, which is hard to visit because of gas prices) - of course I can't because of decreased job possibilities. But anyway, it was much fun and it's the first time in a long time that I've drank a LOT, didn't get drunk, and woke up this morning without a headache. Maybe I'm aging in reverse! LOL
Okay, fictional musings. In order to proceed to this next part, you have to have an interest in POTC2, you have to not be scared off by some spoilers (believe it or not, I am trying to avoid really major ones, but I've been sucked into looking at some of the still photos and seeing the two trailers now out), and you have to watch the current Japanese trailer first, especially near the end. It can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZhzUAs5W7I&eurl if you haven't seen it.
Near the end is a very brief cut-in scene of what looks like Jack and Elizabeth very close, facing, his hands up, almost like they're about to kiss or something. That's what I'm referring to herein.
I certainly hope this is either one of them leaning in to bluff and make a point, or a quick kiss that will result in the same reaction Marty McFly and Lorraine Baines had to each other in the 1950s part of "Back to the Future" when Lorraine tried to kiss him and felt icky for it.
HOWEVER ... I do not have the faith in the writers that others in this fandom seem to. My opinion is the first movie was saved much on the backs of Johnny and Gore fixing dialogue and plot points (I don't mean the other actors weren't good; what I mean is the writers did a less than stellar job and were saved from themselves. Listen to the writer commentary on the DVD sometime and how often they talk about being asked to change the script here and there, and THEIR ideas of what made the movie so successful). I have a worry - in the fictional sense, of course; I realize this isn't war in Iran or "real world" stuff - that these two are going to try to set up the old, tired, lame-ass "conflict between two men for the love of a woman" angle, using Will, Jack, and Elizabeth.
I know some on my f-list will disagree with my following statement just like some will disagree about my previous statement about Ted and Terry, but I'll say it anyway: Jack and Elizabeth are NOT a feasible pairing. They are too alike. They would work well together to achieve an end, and they could have a fabulous mentor-student partnership. But sexually? Just - NO. There IS tension in that threesome, but it's not between Jack and Will for the attentions of Elizabeth ...
Last night I went to her delayed wedding reception, and met a lot of new people (and some old ones, from the wedding and once or twice before, mostly his friends who'd adopted her into their circle). Susan was telling me how I ought to move closer to them (they live 100 miles from me, which is hard to visit because of gas prices) - of course I can't because of decreased job possibilities. But anyway, it was much fun and it's the first time in a long time that I've drank a LOT, didn't get drunk, and woke up this morning without a headache. Maybe I'm aging in reverse! LOL
Okay, fictional musings. In order to proceed to this next part, you have to have an interest in POTC2, you have to not be scared off by some spoilers (believe it or not, I am trying to avoid really major ones, but I've been sucked into looking at some of the still photos and seeing the two trailers now out), and you have to watch the current Japanese trailer first, especially near the end. It can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZhzUAs5W7I&eurl if you haven't seen it.
Near the end is a very brief cut-in scene of what looks like Jack and Elizabeth very close, facing, his hands up, almost like they're about to kiss or something. That's what I'm referring to herein.
I certainly hope this is either one of them leaning in to bluff and make a point, or a quick kiss that will result in the same reaction Marty McFly and Lorraine Baines had to each other in the 1950s part of "Back to the Future" when Lorraine tried to kiss him and felt icky for it.
HOWEVER ... I do not have the faith in the writers that others in this fandom seem to. My opinion is the first movie was saved much on the backs of Johnny and Gore fixing dialogue and plot points (I don't mean the other actors weren't good; what I mean is the writers did a less than stellar job and were saved from themselves. Listen to the writer commentary on the DVD sometime and how often they talk about being asked to change the script here and there, and THEIR ideas of what made the movie so successful). I have a worry - in the fictional sense, of course; I realize this isn't war in Iran or "real world" stuff - that these two are going to try to set up the old, tired, lame-ass "conflict between two men for the love of a woman" angle, using Will, Jack, and Elizabeth.
I know some on my f-list will disagree with my following statement just like some will disagree about my previous statement about Ted and Terry, but I'll say it anyway: Jack and Elizabeth are NOT a feasible pairing. They are too alike. They would work well together to achieve an end, and they could have a fabulous mentor-student partnership. But sexually? Just - NO. There IS tension in that threesome, but it's not between Jack and Will for the attentions of Elizabeth ...
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Date: 2006-05-01 08:04 pm (UTC)Here's the problem I have with the whole thing: It presumes that Elizabeth will do the same thing over and over and over, when I would have pegged her as smarter than that. And it presumes that Jack is so desperate to get laid that he'll be made an idiot of time and time and time again by it.
Now for the time period she's in, sex may well be the biggest gambling chip Elizabeth possesses, and I don't know that I would condemn that. But I've spent almost 3 years under the impression Jack is savvier than that, especially since he had her number, basically, in the storyline of the first movie ("peas in a pod" indeed. What the hell else would he have meant by it? He knows she's an opportunist). Why would he be dumb enough to fall for it again and again and again?
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Date: 2006-05-01 09:03 pm (UTC)The big ending of PotC 3 which we are all waiting for:
Jack throws Elizabeth overboard and drops a dinghy nearby with a few days worth of hard tack and a bottle of rum. He bids her "Ta!" and sails off into the sunset. As they are making way, another ship--a Navy ship--hoves into view and signals the Pearl with a flag of truce. Jack hollers over to ask what the Navy ship wants and it's Norrington, who tells him he has a package for delivery to the master of the Pearl. "So give it!" Jack says. Will, dressed like a musketeer (again), swings over and snaps off a nice salute to Norrington. "Thanks very much for the ride, Commodore." They continue on their merry way. Meantime, Elizabeth signals the Dauntless wildly. Norrington notices her and calls to her, "Yes, Miss Swann?" To which Elizabeth says, "Rescue me! I'll marry you!!" James' response? "Um, no," Roll end credits.:)
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Date: 2006-05-01 09:15 pm (UTC)And when you boil everything down, THAT'S what it's all about anyway - fantasyland. It's not that Disney and the writers don't have the right to write anything they want about these characters - it's that we the fans feel we have ownership in them when we really don't, not while it's still an active franchise.
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Date: 2006-05-01 09:14 pm (UTC)But as a plot point, I'd think Will would have to do something to Jack to get him to act this way toward him (Will) - Jack IS a pirate, IS dishonest (to a point), but he has his own weird honor system. He'd have to be screwed over - or think he is - to turn on Will.