Good trip and fictional musings

[veronica_rich]

Three weeks ago, my friend Susan got married, to a college professor she's known for more than a year. Like me, Susan is in her almost-mid-30s and I didn't think she'd ever get married, even though she did date and had lived with a guy before this one. At any rate, she was never searching for a husband, so I think that's the best way to go. (Unlike me - I do not live well with other humans, and I know this from experience. Sex would not abate that.)

Last night I went to her delayed wedding reception, and met a lot of new people (and some old ones, from the wedding and once or twice before, mostly his friends who'd adopted her into their circle). Susan was telling me how I ought to move closer to them (they live 100 miles from me, which is hard to visit because of gas prices) - of course I can't because of decreased job possibilities. But anyway, it was much fun and it's the first time in a long time that I've drank a LOT, didn't get drunk, and woke up this morning without a headache. Maybe I'm aging in reverse! LOL


Okay, fictional musings. In order to proceed to this next part, you have to have an interest in POTC2, you have to not be scared off by some spoilers (believe it or not, I am trying to avoid really major ones, but I've been sucked into looking at some of the still photos and seeing the two trailers now out), and you have to watch the current Japanese trailer first, especially near the end. It can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZhzUAs5W7I&eurl if you haven't seen it.


Near the end is a very brief cut-in scene of what looks like Jack and Elizabeth very close, facing, his hands up, almost like they're about to kiss or something. That's what I'm referring to herein.

I certainly hope this is either one of them leaning in to bluff and make a point, or a quick kiss that will result in the same reaction Marty McFly and Lorraine Baines had to each other in the 1950s part of "Back to the Future" when Lorraine tried to kiss him and felt icky for it.

HOWEVER ... I do not have the faith in the writers that others in this fandom seem to. My opinion is the first movie was saved much on the backs of Johnny and Gore fixing dialogue and plot points (I don't mean the other actors weren't good; what I mean is the writers did a less than stellar job and were saved from themselves. Listen to the writer commentary on the DVD sometime and how often they talk about being asked to change the script here and there, and THEIR ideas of what made the movie so successful). I have a worry - in the fictional sense, of course; I realize this isn't war in Iran or "real world" stuff - that these two are going to try to set up the old, tired, lame-ass "conflict between two men for the love of a woman" angle, using Will, Jack, and Elizabeth.

I know some on my f-list will disagree with my following statement just like some will disagree about my previous statement about Ted and Terry, but I'll say it anyway: Jack and Elizabeth are NOT a feasible pairing. They are too alike. They would work well together to achieve an end, and they could have a fabulous mentor-student partnership. But sexually? Just - NO. There IS tension in that threesome, but it's not between Jack and Will for the attentions of Elizabeth ...

Comments

[gloromeien.livejournal.com]

Hey-there, longtime fan of your fics tuning in,

I don't necessarily disagree with your statements about the writers not doing it all on their own and certain other parties being involved in improving the script. I certainly think most successful movies and most certainly this one are a collaboration between all involved. I'm sure Ted, Terry, Gore, Johnny, and probably even Geoffrey Rush had as much to do with the finished film as any one of their individual contributions to dialogue. They each added their own unique elements and it all came together as a whole.

That quibble aside, I have read Orlando say only about a thousand times in recent press that Will is going to go quite 'dark' for the third film. If that's so, the only dramatically meaningful way to do that is if he's estranged from Elizabeth and she comes to question his character (which, as in all tales of this sort, in the end will prove completely fruitless because he was just pretending all along, blah, blah).

Anyway, point being that if Elizabeth is canoodling with Jack, it lowers the dramatic stakes of this considerably. Of course, that itself could be the impetus for Will decamping to the dark side (depending on what that in itself actually means plot-wise), but that seems more like a fanfic plot than it does the actualy, humor-driven and action-oriented films.

Basically, I think such a scene has more value comedically than it does in genuine intent (and by the gods do I hope I'm right on this one). Also, there was that moment in POTC1 where they were flirting on the deserted island and Elizabeth had zero interest in pursuing that. Not to menion the last line Jack speaks to her in the original film, which indicates that Jack thinks Liz is interested in him, as all women are, but that this is another sun-baked delusion of his. And that, really, is a much funnier notion, and way to play that scene, than if it's true and they really are flirting. Keira does do craftly indignation only too well (even got her an Oscar nod).

Sorry for the veritable thesis, but I do get excited about these things! Take care!

-G. ;D

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

I read Orli's interviews too, and to me, it's possible that he teams with Jack for whatever reason and goes pirate for some reason (or that he goes pirate and opposes Jack). But I would hate for it to be over a dame. Cripes, how predictable!

And to think, I was more worried a year ago that it would turn out Jack is Will's blood relative ...

[jackfan2.livejournal.com]

LOL!! Actually, when the film first one, Curse of the Black Pearl, came out, I thought Jack and Will would prove to be HALF brothers by the 2nd movie.

Hillarious.. *puts on serious face now* You've no idea how releived I am that THAT is not the case.