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Apparently the remark Foster Friess made about aspirin being clenched between 'a gal's knees' being the ideal cheap birth control was a joke.

Because it's fun to make jokes about competent adults who have to actively worry if the right to make decisions for themselves is going to be taken away by people who have no conception (pun intended) of the situation those people face! C'mon, you dour fuckers! Why aren't you laughing? This is funny shit, man! I know I have a hearty guffaw every time I hear about cops pulling over a minority and beating them without provocation, or a woman in the military being raped for having the gall to think she belongs in the same place a male citizen does. HAR HAR!

Someone ought to get hold of Freiss's address and publish it so women can leave their unwanted babies they were forced to carry to term on his doorstep. Or, you know, visit him in the middle of the night and force a couple of things of his together in such a fashion that he won't have to fuss about reproducing again, either.

Date: 2012-02-17 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bayliss.livejournal.com
This sucks ass. I hate all of them. Can I vote for Rimmer?

Actually I'm voting for Obama. Unless somebody super awesome runs for the Green Party.
Edited Date: 2012-02-17 09:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-02-17 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
I have a niggling, sneaking, horrible suspicion that Rimmer would be all for taking away a woman's choice to her own reproductive system - at least once a fetus is in there. Then again, maybe his approach to it is like religion, and that's not the case.

I'm voting for the lesser of all sub-par choices. A body can be a good person but a not-so-good politician. Or just bad at both, LOL.

Date: 2012-02-17 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janamelie.livejournal.com
I actually think that Rimmer would be pro-choice, given his own experience of what it's like to be an unwanted child. Could be wrong, though.

Date: 2012-02-18 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bayliss.livejournal.com
I agree with you. I think he would be pro-choice.

Date: 2012-02-17 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janamelie.livejournal.com
Oh, FFS. This is why I couldn't do your job - I'd have high blood pressure in no time. :(

Date: 2012-02-17 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
You actually get to the point where you can compartmentalize after enough years. I can take 10 minutes in the middle of my day to rant about this here, and maybe grumble to a like-minded co-worker, and then I'm fine to get back to the business of directing/editing what I'm supposed to be working on for the day. But I won't say my vascular system hasn't gotten a workout ...

Date: 2012-02-17 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pir8fancier.livejournal.com
He was shown as the douche bag he is. People are finally beginning to wake up. That the people of privilege will do anything to keep their privilege. They will take away your rights, whether they be personal or economic. I want these assholes to continue to make such stupid remarks because only then will they be exposed as what they stand for. This guy can speak all the bullshit he wants as far as I am concerned. Every dollar he pours into Santorum's campaign is a dollar for repression and idiocy.

Date: 2012-02-18 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
You and I have hashed through this - I still say you're more optimistic than I am. I don't have any such faith in the general populace. I think the only reason they voted for Obama was because things got so very bad under Bush and the market crashed right before that - without that crash, I have no doubt McCain and Palin would be in office. And I think people can forget a lot of misery in less than four years - especially this country, where most people hear "God" or "Jesus" and go apeshit happy over it.

Date: 2012-02-18 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pir8fancier.livejournal.com
They are the minority. Look at the work that Diane did with the Dems in Wisconsin. Whether the recall is successful is not important. It's gotten people thinking about what all this bullshit Tea Party talk really boils down to. Most people like paved roads, functioning police and fire departments, and money for public education. Because, duh, most people are the 99%. Witness your post on congressional debate on birth control and insurance. THAT is what dominates conservatives. Older white men who want the world to be 1956 again, when all those uppity women and black and brown people knew there place. The demographics are changing and they can't do a thing about it. Seven states now have authorized gay marriage. Ten years ago I never would have anticipated it would be that many. I'm about as cynical as they come, but I look around and see the world becoming less white. That doesn't mean more liberal, but it does mean that someone like Romney is in trouble because he only polls well with well-off Repubs and not your blue-coller Repubs. Santorum is cleaning his clock in that demographic. And yet we all know that Santorum can't win against Obama. So the next few months will be interesting.

Date: 2012-02-18 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
The gap, I think, is as I said before - you look at what's been done. I look at what needs to still happen and the successful parts of the efforts to roll back what's been done. I see that gay may still seem a foreign concept for some of the 90% of people who aren't. Not that it's right, but I mean numbers only. But every single person knows many girls and women; we aren't a low percentage. What kind of person thinks that half or more of the people he knows should be controlled like a dairy cow, that these kinds of debates are even valid or that such legislation gets further than being laughed out of committee? What kind of person thinks she herself doesn't have any more rights than that? What kind of Congress holds a hearing on female contraception WITHOUT ONE DAMN FEMALE TESTIMONY ON THE PANEL in fucking 2012?

If they have no problem oppressing their mother, they have no problem oppressing anyone else they disagree with. And these people still exist in far too high a percentage for me. It'd be nice to think they'll be dying soon and taking their outdated ideas with them, but the problem is they still have the freedom to talk and spread and try to teach their hateful spew before then. And some are still too statistically young to die soon.

And some of the decent people will die far sooner and we will lose their levelheaded counterbalance.

Date: 2012-02-18 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captsparrow4evr.livejournal.com
We are, I hope, looking at the last desperate acts of a group who sense they are losing their power. That does not mean we can be complacent. We must educate everyone within the sounds of our voices to vote for the candidates that will recognize that women's rights are human rights. While that means, right now, the majority of those candidates are Democrat, we must not rely simply on party affiliation to determine who we elect. As long as corporations and the 1% maintain the advantage given them by Citizens United, they will try to maintain control of everyone else and especially women.

Date: 2012-02-18 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
If they were losing their power, they wouldn't still command so much donation money and goddamn screen time. At this point, I've given up pretty much on changing anyone's mind - like that'll happen - and focused on ranting instead. It's like trying to convince someone a black person is fully human - either someone GETS such as that, or they never will. (And there are those who still don't think so.)

Date: 2012-02-18 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hippediva.livejournal.com
He's being soundly pilloried on CNN. And honestly, him and his jokes worry me much less than the State of Virginia mandating vaginal foreign-object rape as a condition for abortion at this point. I'm starting to think Lysistrata was wrong----and Akasha was right (kill off all but 10% breeding stock). *headdesk*

Date: 2012-02-18 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
For me, it's that shit like he says is what makes it possible for things like the transvaginal requirement. They feed off each other and reek of the woman being solely responsible and culpable for the consequences of sex.

I have a much older friend who is all for women's rights, had a career, was the dominant one in her marriage, raised a strong daughter, etc. ... and even SHE is always spouting how women bear the responsibility for social standards and sexual responsibility. Like not only are men slobbering sex beasts, but they have every pass TO act like that. It's goddamn 2012 - why the hell are our heads still stuck up the caveman's ass?

Date: 2012-02-18 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hippediva.livejournal.com
Too true. Alas, women in general have spent too much time worrying about god-knows-what (and are encouraged to worry about nonsense by men to keep them out of the political arena) to actually band together and start weilding ballocks knives. *sigh* I don't know. The older I get the stupider people seem to be.

Date: 2012-02-18 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
Not that oppression isn't a worthy goal in itself for the new GOP, but I've been wondering if it's all a wag the dog for something larger going on we aren't seeing. Maybe just a distraction tactic, as you say.

But wealth is always the end game with these people. It's draining and exhausting to try to control such a large segment as half the population; there has to be some immediate pecuniary payoff to this. Is it to get women out of jobs and changing nappies, leaving more open for men so none of the GOP in power have to try to come up with actual additional jobs - or end outsourcing? I can certainly see that being a Newt thing - the master of privatization that he is. Is it creating so many new workers that they'll be happy for any job they get in 18 years and will be disposable if they aren't? That sure fits in with all the union-busting going on. But these guys and corporations are GREEDY; I have a hard time believing they'd be willing to wait a couple of decades for the payoff. So what's the real deal here?

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