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veronica_richMy sister and I went to see The Movie Sequel tonight. The short version is I haven't figured out just how I feel about this movie yet.
These are *extremely* random thoughts, as it is late and I need to sleep.
Let's just get the first part out of the way. I have never found much attraction in a J/E dynamic. They're too much alike, and they'd never actually last beyond some de-lusting sex. One would eventually have to kill the other and take over the ship, LOL. So this was not my favorite part of the movie. THAT SAID ... I can appreciate the dynamic the writers were perhaps going for. They wanted to do something unexpected and shake things up.
Is it just me, or did this one go out of its way to heterosexualize Jack as much as possible? Just wondering if I'm the only one who saw that, or if I'm just making shit up.
Will getting his own story was quite nice. He gets to meet his father (and we get to see where he gets his "noble" streak!), and I'm right - he does get his eyes from his mother. *G* His whole attitude toward Davy Jones in challenging him, the whole lashing thing up on deck - damn. Our little simple blacksmith has grown up.
Speaking of which - I think Will was PISSED OFF at the end. Sitting there throwing his knife into the table, not saying anything, and then suddenly asking if Elizabeth wanted to find Jack ... ohhhhh, someone's going to get an ass-kicking in the third movie. Thing is, will it be Jack, or Elizabeth? Jack is a pirate, and honestly, Will shouldn't expect anything different. Elizabeth however ... ah, there's the rub. She isn't supposed to do the things Jack does.
I think Barbossa should totally take Elizabeth off Jack's and Will's hands. Now there's a duo that could go places together.
What was up with Jack trading Will for his own soul? I have to admit, that's the only part I'm still having trouble squaring with my Turrow fondness. I know Jack is opportunistic (read above), but was the whole purpose simply to tear down the perception you get of him in the first movie (when you think he's backstabbing, but then he turns into this good man - so is this movie supposed to do the opposite)?
THEN AGAIN - Will *did* show up expecting Jack to just turn over his compass without fully explaining why, and then pulled a sword on the man on his own ship. It could be said Jack was simply giving Will a taste of his own medicine - "Fuck with me, will you, boy? All right, then ..."
They did have a few "moments" though, perhaps the best being Will showing up on the island. "How'd you get here?" "Sea turtles, mate. Strapped one to each foot." "Not as easy as it looks, is it?" *LOVES*
And, as much as the Turrow part of me disliked it, I must admit I snickered when Jack whacked Will with the oar - I leaned over to my sister and muttered, "Payback's a bitch, isn't it?"
I have a pointed question for the Turrow 'shippers on my f-list who get this far: Can you, or can you not work around what's been given you by this new canon? Because ... I sort of think I still can. *G*
More later, I'm sure.
These are *extremely* random thoughts, as it is late and I need to sleep.
Let's just get the first part out of the way. I have never found much attraction in a J/E dynamic. They're too much alike, and they'd never actually last beyond some de-lusting sex. One would eventually have to kill the other and take over the ship, LOL. So this was not my favorite part of the movie. THAT SAID ... I can appreciate the dynamic the writers were perhaps going for. They wanted to do something unexpected and shake things up.
Is it just me, or did this one go out of its way to heterosexualize Jack as much as possible? Just wondering if I'm the only one who saw that, or if I'm just making shit up.
Will getting his own story was quite nice. He gets to meet his father (and we get to see where he gets his "noble" streak!), and I'm right - he does get his eyes from his mother. *G* His whole attitude toward Davy Jones in challenging him, the whole lashing thing up on deck - damn. Our little simple blacksmith has grown up.
Speaking of which - I think Will was PISSED OFF at the end. Sitting there throwing his knife into the table, not saying anything, and then suddenly asking if Elizabeth wanted to find Jack ... ohhhhh, someone's going to get an ass-kicking in the third movie. Thing is, will it be Jack, or Elizabeth? Jack is a pirate, and honestly, Will shouldn't expect anything different. Elizabeth however ... ah, there's the rub. She isn't supposed to do the things Jack does.
I think Barbossa should totally take Elizabeth off Jack's and Will's hands. Now there's a duo that could go places together.
What was up with Jack trading Will for his own soul? I have to admit, that's the only part I'm still having trouble squaring with my Turrow fondness. I know Jack is opportunistic (read above), but was the whole purpose simply to tear down the perception you get of him in the first movie (when you think he's backstabbing, but then he turns into this good man - so is this movie supposed to do the opposite)?
THEN AGAIN - Will *did* show up expecting Jack to just turn over his compass without fully explaining why, and then pulled a sword on the man on his own ship. It could be said Jack was simply giving Will a taste of his own medicine - "Fuck with me, will you, boy? All right, then ..."
They did have a few "moments" though, perhaps the best being Will showing up on the island. "How'd you get here?" "Sea turtles, mate. Strapped one to each foot." "Not as easy as it looks, is it?" *LOVES*
And, as much as the Turrow part of me disliked it, I must admit I snickered when Jack whacked Will with the oar - I leaned over to my sister and muttered, "Payback's a bitch, isn't it?"
I have a pointed question for the Turrow 'shippers on my f-list who get this far: Can you, or can you not work around what's been given you by this new canon? Because ... I sort of think I still can. *G*
More later, I'm sure.
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Date: 2006-07-07 06:55 pm (UTC)Am I the only one who didn't get that not only was Jack trading Will for his soul, but that he was basically putting Will in a situation where he would get the key. Seriously, Jack has faith that Will will (whoa, that was weird to write) get himself out of the situation and bring the key to him. When Will shows up again Jack is both looking surprised ("Whoa, hey, the boy made it. Good job!") AND expecting Will to just let him do what he needs with the key. When Will get's out the knife and tell's Jack what he's planning on doing, then in the only time Jack actually threaten's him for real. Jack is okay with everything Will does up untilt he point that Will's plans interfere with his own.
Jack is opportunistic, but he's also smart, and if he can get someone clever and sneaky into a situation that will help him in more ways then one, he'll take it. I bet that it was probably in Jack's plan that he'd use the heart as leverage to get his soul and Will back. But the plan got a little fucked in the end.
But you can ALSO see it as, "Well, you didn't join me when you got that chance. I'm a lover scorned in all that! Also, you come up and start demanding things from meself, not even asking all nice like, and you completely failed to save me from angry natives. Who needs you, have fun on deck with the scary sea people, say hi to Bootstrap and all that. Oh, and if you can possibly get the key, do that and come on back, savvy?"
At least this is how I'M choosing to see it. :D