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veronica_richI have been quiet for a couple of weeks on all things POTC fandom (except the constant humping I do for the ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
raise_the_dead Swagfest, of course). It's a deliberate effort to keep my mouth shut so as not to contribute to creating an even wider rift in our fandom. You may also notice that those posts are gone - rather, at this time not available to read to anyone but me.
I'm making an effort. Others in the fandom on both sides are making similar or better efforts. I would hope this spreads to more people making an effort, because I keep hearing over and over from people of all preferences that this is what most want: An attempt to establish a more inclusive and equal fandom. By no stretch of the imagination do I think that can happen in my journal - but I know for a fact that when I post complaints here, they're widely read. I would hope the same principle applies when I post something that's not so sensational - like this.
Many of us have had our "go" at what we see as "the other side." I'm not going to say I was always wrong in nature - that would suggest the sources of my complaints were always in my head, and I don't believe that's the case. But I should have handled the way I said things better in some cases, so it didn't sound worse than it was, and so it doesn't immediately put those I would hope to read and understand it, into a defensive stance. My only explanation is that I felt like I was as polite as I could be between DMC and several months ago - and nobody ever took my points into consideration until I jumped on the table with a bullhorn and started yelling. And THEN I came across as Uber Bitch, when that wasn't what I was trying for. This is a relatively small fandom, and it sometimes seems like it's hard to be "heard" if you don't have the right connections or name - nobody wants to say that, but it's true. It's like a small town run by a few families, that you have to get ahead by marrying into or making friends with the right people.
I'm not looking to be one of those "right people" - I just want to be heard when I make a point and not automatically dismissed because I don't agree or I don't hold the same character or 'ship preferences. I suspect there are other fans who feel the same way. I don't think any of us hate "the other side" - we're just tired of feeling like what we say isn't as important to you as what you say to each other. (And there are probably J/E fans who feel that way about us.)
I can't promise I won't complain ever again, but I will endeavor to keep it polite within my brand of directness, and I will continue to keep it to this journal (something I do feel I've done right). I'm no saint; that's all you can expect of me in my space. And as always, I won't kick anyone out for disagreeing or even anonymonity.
raise_the_dead Swagfest, of course). It's a deliberate effort to keep my mouth shut so as not to contribute to creating an even wider rift in our fandom. You may also notice that those posts are gone - rather, at this time not available to read to anyone but me.I'm making an effort. Others in the fandom on both sides are making similar or better efforts. I would hope this spreads to more people making an effort, because I keep hearing over and over from people of all preferences that this is what most want: An attempt to establish a more inclusive and equal fandom. By no stretch of the imagination do I think that can happen in my journal - but I know for a fact that when I post complaints here, they're widely read. I would hope the same principle applies when I post something that's not so sensational - like this.
Many of us have had our "go" at what we see as "the other side." I'm not going to say I was always wrong in nature - that would suggest the sources of my complaints were always in my head, and I don't believe that's the case. But I should have handled the way I said things better in some cases, so it didn't sound worse than it was, and so it doesn't immediately put those I would hope to read and understand it, into a defensive stance. My only explanation is that I felt like I was as polite as I could be between DMC and several months ago - and nobody ever took my points into consideration until I jumped on the table with a bullhorn and started yelling. And THEN I came across as Uber Bitch, when that wasn't what I was trying for. This is a relatively small fandom, and it sometimes seems like it's hard to be "heard" if you don't have the right connections or name - nobody wants to say that, but it's true. It's like a small town run by a few families, that you have to get ahead by marrying into or making friends with the right people.
I'm not looking to be one of those "right people" - I just want to be heard when I make a point and not automatically dismissed because I don't agree or I don't hold the same character or 'ship preferences. I suspect there are other fans who feel the same way. I don't think any of us hate "the other side" - we're just tired of feeling like what we say isn't as important to you as what you say to each other. (And there are probably J/E fans who feel that way about us.)
I can't promise I won't complain ever again, but I will endeavor to keep it polite within my brand of directness, and I will continue to keep it to this journal (something I do feel I've done right). I'm no saint; that's all you can expect of me in my space. And as always, I won't kick anyone out for disagreeing or even anonymonity.
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Date: 2008-07-20 08:01 pm (UTC)The first steps are the most difficult, but if any fences are to be mended, we have to start someplace. The Queen Mothers will never be changed or swayed. That's fine. If anyone wants to have their cliques, clubs or comms, fine. A little peace and space is all I ask.
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Date: 2008-07-20 08:43 pm (UTC)Fish 1: "The bowl used to be a bigger place."
Fish 2: "The bowl's still the same - there's just more in it."
Res ipsa loquitur
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Date: 2008-07-21 01:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-07-20 11:54 pm (UTC)I've been a bit tired lately, but I hope you're okay. You seem to have been posting a lot, so I hope that means you are. ((hugs))
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Date: 2008-07-21 12:22 am (UTC)Sorry to hear you've been tired, but I know it's an ongoing problem for you. Anything new medical-wise on your end? (Good, I hope)
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Date: 2008-07-25 01:29 am (UTC)I have been working on adjusting the frequency of infusions -- that is I am trying to reduce the number of times I have to go get an IV put in my arm. The jury is still out on whether this will work and my body will adjust to this new regime. So far I have been much more tired and achy than normal and all I seem to do is sleep. I am really behind on everything. However, In the end I will either decide it is not working or my body will snap to and adjust. I'll knoww in maybe another two weeks. It is frustrating, as sleeping 15 hours a day pretty much guarantees that I get very little done (since I generally don't feel that stellar when I have to sleep that much). But we shall see.
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Date: 2008-07-25 01:46 am (UTC)She's gone back to work and they seem happy to have her. They let her take Monday off because she was still feeling sick, even though she was supposed to be back there then. Hopefully this will work out for her.
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Date: 2008-07-21 04:42 pm (UTC)For a whole lot of reasons, not least impending school hols, I need to cut back on LJ time. I've resolved to spend less time on meta (which seems to generate mostly woe and misery or a big nothing) but hopefully as much or more time on reading and writing fic. I'm hoping I don't count historical research as meta...