Mourning

May. 23rd, 2007 03:24 pm
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This was my very first DMC icon, before I ever knew it would be called DMC, Photoshopped in the summer of 2005, I believe. Or earlier, possibly. And certainly before I ever knew I'd have problems with a sequel.

*sigh*

Whether you love or hate the entire series, it's ending as we know it - even if there are further adventures of Jack, Gibbs & Limited Company, the team we've come to know is no more after tomorrow. And despite all, I've mostly loved it. As I said in a post last week, it's sort of like graduating college, in the sense of time passage, new experiences and people met, and having to move on to something else new.

It's the first fandom in which I got in on the ground floor and have been with it the entire time, for better or ill. For DMC, I kept spoiler-free, but I was so disappointed that I read everything I could about AWE to ensure it wouldn't happen again. Yesterday I bought the AWE soundtrack and played it while making dinner; I had to turn it off partway through, even though it's quite good, because I started feeling sort of sad. (If I weren't dealing with Internet and cable nonsense, it'd probably be less severe, but it would still be there.)

Anyone else experiencing this? Or are you just glad to have it over with?

Date: 2007-05-23 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crevette.livejournal.com
I have to admit knowing the ending has made me feel rather sad and depressed. I'll still see the movie, but I donno....

Date: 2007-05-23 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jigglykat.livejournal.com
I have kept about 90% spoiler free, which is pretty awesome considering you post SO much tempting stuff here to gander at!

It hasn't hit me that it'll be over with in just a little over 24 hours. I'm more concerned about my friends getting to the theater on time tomorrow evening than the movie itself. They're VERY notorious for being late, even if you tell them to show up two hours ahead of time.

We shall see, however. I haven't been involved with the fandom for a long time. I stopped reading fic, mostly because a lot of people were putting in AWE spoilers into their fics. I stopped doodling pictures after that Captain Jack comic. Hopefully, the movie will make me interested again.

Date: 2007-05-23 07:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] venusinchains.livejournal.com
I don't think I've ever known so much about a movie before going to see it. It does seem like it can only be a let down. But the fandom!whore in me is still holding out a little hope for one or two J/W scenes. And even knowing all the major (and more than a few minor) plot points, I like to think that the actors will add multi-layers, making it all new again. But I tend to be easy to please (most of my reaction to DMC is evidence of that :-p).

So, I'm not 100% ready for closure yet. I think I may even be getting a second wind, after my ennui of the past week or two. (Ask me again Friday...)

I do think nothing will compare to the fan experience of awaiting "the next" movie. With no "next" on the horizon the fan frenzy will even out. That thought is depressing (because you know people will find other, "more relevant" interests and wander off).

Date: 2007-05-23 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pir8fancier.livejournal.com
I am sorry it's over with because I couldn't say ANYTHING about the second movie, not a single word, and now with the last one, the spoilerage means that I might be silenced once again.

You and I are similar in that we were here at the beginning. But you kept your toes in the water (despite your misgivings) and I just couldn't wade in no matter how shallow the water. And now...

Am sitting on the beach again, staring at the water.

Date: 2007-05-23 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
I only dipped my toes because (a) I don't like being *told* what to say or think; (b) I've been in this fandom longer than most of the teenyboppers causing the fuss and muss, and they can kiss my ass if I'm an inconvenience to them - I'm old and that comes with a few perks; and (c) I foolishly have held onto hope for a beloved canon-verse. Maybe it'll be borne out; I don't know yet. But I also understand wanting to avoid problems and working with other fandoms instead, that are more satisfying and less trouble. I've done that before, too.

Date: 2007-05-23 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pir8fancier.livejournal.com
It's not like I avoided the wank on purpose. I'm not that mature by a long shot. It's that I didn't have anything to say to combat that other than a few posts about character assassination and plot holes. That was ALL I had to say. And once I said it, I was done. Stick a fork in me. The movie didn't elicit any desire at all other than the very clear cut feeling that I never wanted to see it again.

So I couldn't write anything. Nothing. You saw that lame attempt. Ugh. Just nothing more to say. It wasn't being zen about it, believe me.

Date: 2007-05-23 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinya.livejournal.com
I'm still excited to see the movie, despite HUGE misgivings....the kind of excitement that feels more or less like being sick to my stomach.

Part of me does want it to be over with, though, so I know exactly where we stand as far as canon goes.

Date: 2007-05-23 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
I think it's the GAME OVER! argument I agree with the most. Just give me your canon so I can fix it in fanon, boys. *G*

I sat all through the second half of DMC with the same lower-intestinal feelings, so I know it well. It took me WAY long to figure out how to fix that. ;-)

Date: 2007-05-23 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinya.livejournal.com
Fanfic and Pepto-Bismol?

Date: 2007-05-23 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-silver-rose.livejournal.com
I read or heard about enough spoilers for DMC to actually ahve them spoil it a little for me (I probably would've enjoyed the ending a wee bit more if I didn't know Barbossa was coming back, for example), so I've been religiously avoiding AWE spoilers. Still, I kinda see what you mean about the end of the "canon" side of it. I felt the same way when the last LOTR film came out in 2003, despite Dominic Monaghan still being a visible presence on "Lost". I imagine any fandom loses its "freshness" after a while, and the films/TV shows/book/etc that one appreciates the most for what they are will be the fandoms that you stick to.

Date: 2007-05-23 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizzie-omalley.livejournal.com
I loved the first movie with a passion but I have not been able to get behind the second one at all. I avoided most of the spoilers for DMC and for AWE. I don't want to know how it all ends.

I have one story idea for the time between CotBP and DMC but I was so bleah about DMC that I haven't been able to write it. And I have been out of the fic reading thing with a few exceptions because I couldn't stand most of the fic that came out of DMC. And if you can't say anything nice avoid it like the plague so you don't put your foot in it.

This was my first and is really my only fandom. I started with the first of the crew and have at the least lurked about the edges of the thing since the first movie.

Right now, I am a little blase' about AWE but I am not sure how much that has to do with the movie itself or my mood at life in general. I don't think it has hit me that "it is over". When it hits me, I do think I will be a little sad more because I wonder what will become of all of my wee flist without that common thread than because of the end of the franchise. Of course I could change my opinion if the movie is, at least, decent.

Date: 2007-05-23 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yoiebear.livejournal.com
I'm excited about AWE, but, like you, I'm a bummed it is the end. I at least hope it is the end because we don't need another Star Wars prequel trilogy fiasco.

I miss what the fandom was even when I joined in early 2005. Damn kids.

Date: 2007-05-23 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitaryraven.livejournal.com
"I miss what the fandom was even when I joined in early 2005. Damn kids."

Amen to that! I hate how horrible the fandom has become. I've actually been avoiding it for a few days because I couldn't take it anymore, and it actually feels pretty liberating. :O)

Date: 2007-05-23 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yoiebear.livejournal.com
I honestly wouldn't know anything was wrong if it wasn't for Veronica. I don't look at that stuff. I read the fanfiction and talk to the people on my flist. I have been reading spoilers, but I just don't get involved in the petty crap. I've got enough shit in my life, I don't need to add to it.

Date: 2007-05-23 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elibad.livejournal.com
I have mixed feelings. I've pretty much been staying out of things lately, just waiting for it to be over with, good or bad. To know what was going to be left to work with (if anything), to finally emerge from the limbo DMC sunk us into, and see how fandom survives.

I am significantly less 'stomch-churney' over AWE now than I was a few months ago. I think I may have reached a point of 'I ain't gonna get what I want, so I might as well enjoy what I'm getting'. So, if there are multiple moments of 'Whee! Pretty!', "Eeee! 'Splodey!' and 'Mmmm, Subtext!' I will consider my 12 bucks well spent. And if it turns out better than expected (unlikely, since the 'explanations' are already rolling in) that will be a bonus and I will be happier.

I do fear a huge 'wad-o-wank' though. Big, and ugly. Hopefully if it happens (it sees to have already begun) it will fizzle quickly and leave things relatively unscathed, and that this fandom will remain active for awhile at least. I'm really quite fond of it, despite all my bitching.

Date: 2007-05-23 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captsparrow4evr.livejournal.com
I have mixed feelings. Like you, Ver, I got in on the "ground floor" and joined the PotC_slash yahoogroup like the day after I saw the first movie and have been with it ever since. I'm not at all happy with the spoilers I've heard though I've been appeased a bit in the last couple weeks by a few other spoilers I've read. Still, there's at least one issue I believe I will be very depp-ressed about (pun intended). On one hand, I don't want it to end because I am so in love with these characters (Jack especially) and this 'verse. But if TPTB are going to resort to character assassination (literally) in order to get away from producing more films, then let it go and be done with it. I recall in the first movie extras the writers saying something about how this was "Will's story". Without that chemistry between Will and Jack in any subsequent movies, they really are kind of pointless, aren't they? And I don't necessarily mean anything romantic or sexual. Jack and Will at the end of the first movie were so great together--it's still my favorite scene to watch because it shows what great potential they have. And then the writers had to ruin it all by having Liz insert herself where she, frankly, didn't belong.

I want canon to be over, yes, but I'm not sure if fanon will be able to fix things. *sigh* BTW, this is the first icon I slaved over for my LJ. I still like it.

Date: 2007-05-23 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitaryraven.livejournal.com
Awww, now I'm getting a bit sad.

You said the soundtrack's good? I'm considering getting it since I have the first two, but I never buy CDs anymore so I'm not sure.

Date: 2007-05-24 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stabbycutlass.livejournal.com
At the moment, I feel too excited to feel sad about the end of the trilogy. Mostly because there's still so much to look forward to after AWE, like the fanart/fanfiction and DVD release.

As for spoilers, this is the first movie I've ever done heavy-duty spoiler searching for. Mostly because I'm impatient and I couldn't help but try to find the ending after seeing DMC. So far, I've heard alot of things I'd love to see. Not to say there aren't things that are sad; but in the end, I think it'll work out. Overall, I think I'll love this even more than I love DMC.

Date: 2007-05-24 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starrdust411.livejournal.com
I guess I'm in the second category; glad that it's almost over. PotC has just been turned into this ugly cringe worthy thing for me, and that sucks because I was really in love with it before and now I'm having to fight with myself to stay with it. One thing's for damn sure, no matter how good or bad this sequel is, I won't watch any PotC films if they don't have all the main characters invovled.

Date: 2007-05-24 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imogenelovelace.livejournal.com
I've always thought that part of the point of fanfic is that it doesn't have to be over when it's over. I can still read/write fic that I enjoy more than DMC (and probably AWE as well). But if the end means less fic, then that's sad. I probably missed a lot of good Jack/Will stuff by coming late to the game.

Date: 2007-05-24 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ainsoph15.livejournal.com
I'm about to get up and go to see the film, and my stomach is churning, and my palms are all clammy, and I feel excited and nervous at the same time. To take Ver's analogy with graduation, the only way I can describe how I feel is that it feels like I'm about to go to an exam. Months of waiting and anticipation, then the final effort when all your eggs go into one basket, and you either get the result you wanted, or leave with a feeling of, 'I could have done so much better'!
I have to say, although it's sad to know that this is the last hoorah, so to speak, I'm glad when a good thing isn't dragged out until it becomes tired and uninteresting. When CotBP came out, we had no idea that there would be anything else made about these characters, yet there was so much fun to be had with them. I wasn't active in the fandom at that point, but I lurked around a bit, and there were so many wonderful things inspired by just one film, so I'd be surprised to see the fandom die out now that we have three films. I suppose DMC and AWE can either be seen as exciting extra developments, or as shit in the sandbox, but either way it means that there is a whole host of new starting points for AUs to branch off from. I don't know how happy I'd be if it's confirmed that there will be another film with just Johnny. I'm actually interested to see how the new Indiana Jones film will play out after years since the last one, as that might be a good indication of what happens when a trilogy gets squared-off.
I'll be watching AWE today both from the aspect of 'Ooh, pretty/exciting/swashswash/swoon/romance!', where I'll simply enjoy it (and I have no doubt I will, from this perspective) for what it is, and the other half of me will be leaping on every last crumb of slashy subtext, and storing it up for use later (like a pervy hamster). To go back to the 'exam' feeling, I anticipate there'll be a whole other kind of revision once the film is done :)

Date: 2007-05-24 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] galadhir.livejournal.com
I am very glad that it's over, as ever since the spoilers for DMC started coming out, PotC became a source of misery rather than happiness for me. Now, thank God, it's finished, and I can go back to enjoying CotBP in peace, secure in the knowledge that they can't do anything *even worse* to my favourite characters.

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