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In the POTC fandom, I used to often wonder why some of the shoviest purveyors and defenders of the Sparrabeth porn (and adjacent fic) were older than about fourteen; like, a LOT older. Like, some of them had adult children. Some had grandchildren. To be fair, I only really wondered about the ones who acted like they were kids and heading up the cast of "Mean Girls" ... but I digress.
Considering the number of older women going for "Fifty Shades of Gray" and the fact the quality of the passages I stood in Target reading a week and a half ago is roughly the same as most J/E fanfic I used to see in POTC, I found this sort of enlightening - though, it did raise more questions than it answered on that front. Why do middle-aged women get off on reading about a 20-year-old woman fucking an older guy? I can't say I do (but then again, my issue with the sparrabethers was never their preference, only that they seemed to think they'd invented a groundbreaking genre of burgeoning-society-woman/older-bad-boy, when Harlequin et. al. had been publishing it for decades). Is it fantasy self-insert? Maybe, if you want to be 20 again. I wouldn't mind having the body and health I had at 20, but you can go hang yourself if you think I want to be that naive or dependent on other people's opinions again, LOL.
(None of this is to insult those who enjoy "Fifty Shades of Gray" - hell, I write fanfic. I used to read this kind of thing when I was a teenager, so I can't even say I've never enjoyed that kind of book. I guess I just think Anne Rice did it better 30 or so years ago with Sleeping Beauty? Not sure what I'm saying; but click on the link above, it's hilarious.)
Considering the number of older women going for "Fifty Shades of Gray" and the fact the quality of the passages I stood in Target reading a week and a half ago is roughly the same as most J/E fanfic I used to see in POTC, I found this sort of enlightening - though, it did raise more questions than it answered on that front. Why do middle-aged women get off on reading about a 20-year-old woman fucking an older guy? I can't say I do (but then again, my issue with the sparrabethers was never their preference, only that they seemed to think they'd invented a groundbreaking genre of burgeoning-society-woman/older-bad-boy, when Harlequin et. al. had been publishing it for decades). Is it fantasy self-insert? Maybe, if you want to be 20 again. I wouldn't mind having the body and health I had at 20, but you can go hang yourself if you think I want to be that naive or dependent on other people's opinions again, LOL.
(None of this is to insult those who enjoy "Fifty Shades of Gray" - hell, I write fanfic. I used to read this kind of thing when I was a teenager, so I can't even say I've never enjoyed that kind of book. I guess I just think Anne Rice did it better 30 or so years ago with Sleeping Beauty? Not sure what I'm saying; but click on the link above, it's hilarious.)
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Date: 2012-05-08 09:30 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-05-08 10:02 pm (UTC)I haven't read this monstrosity myself, just the quotes that so many writers, like the one you linked, are willing to share. They remind me SO much of that epic Sparrabeth fic (that I also only read snippets from, thanks to others), the one that took Jack Sparrow, the stinging trickster we know and love, and transformed him into a weak-as-water imitation of Will Turner. I wonder if that's why I'm finding it so repellent (Twilight and all its baggage aside). It's reopening an old wound. Why would anyone fall for this trash!
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Date: 2012-05-08 10:30 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-05-08 10:49 pm (UTC)I was actually confronted about this book at work today when a co-worker had just discovered the marvel that is "Fifty Shades of Gray." and I laughed my tuckus off. Whether it's welcomed in fandom or not, fanfic in the mainstream gives me the warm fuzzies even as I cringe just a little bit (or a lot.) I suppose because it's us "coming out" to the world.
Or maybe not.
Oh, and on the wank side of fandom. Kinda got that the other day. Apparently if you're not a BNF in certain fandom, they don't even want to acknowledge your existence even when you write them a glowing review. Once again I'm reminded why I lurk. :) I thought you'd appreciate that bit. Heading over to read the link you provided.
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Date: 2012-05-08 11:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-05-09 02:12 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-05-09 02:36 am (UTC)I don't think any of you should be ashamed to know what fanfic is. It's making someone undeservedly rich so obviously now everyone's going to want to do it.
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Date: 2012-05-09 03:47 am (UTC)(no subject)
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