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Reading comments from Elizabeth (POTC) fans on public forums complaining that it seems like the character is being slighted by reviewers of the new movie, in favor of the Penelope Cruz character, Angelica. (Even Geoffrey Rush made some comment about Jack Sparrow finally having a female match in this movie or some such; I don't remember his exact quote.)
Take a page from the Will fans, who've gotten used to bashing of our favorite character by reviewers and other fans for eight years: Get over it and enjoy what you like. It's not personal! It's just their preference! Why should you care? :-)
Take a page from the Will fans, who've gotten used to bashing of our favorite character by reviewers and other fans for eight years: Get over it and enjoy what you like. It's not personal! It's just their preference! Why should you care? :-)
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Date: 2011-05-16 07:55 pm (UTC)BTW, love, nice hat!;)
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Date: 2011-05-16 08:43 pm (UTC)I'm glad to see the necessary end of the "my way or the highway" attitude of the more insane Elizabeth fans. That got old about two days after they started it in 2006. (Now let's see what Depp does again onscreen with Orlando's old girlfriend. *G*)
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Date: 2011-05-16 08:46 pm (UTC)The pairing of Jack and Angelica are awesome. No spoilers, but Philip is not a replacement for Will Turner. Not by a long shot.
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Date: 2011-05-16 09:02 pm (UTC)I haven't read any reviews of this movie yet - professional ones, I mean, as I referenced in my post. Maybe I'll do that tonight, see what's up.
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Date: 2011-05-17 12:31 am (UTC)Regarding the sparrabeth contingent, they didn't strike me as a particularly sensitive group of fangirls. That their plight might be similar to those of us who like to see Orlando Bloom on the screen--given how profoundly they identify with Keira Knightley--is, I imagine, beyond them. So be it.
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Date: 2011-05-17 02:53 am (UTC)(Did you get your email?)
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Date: 2011-05-18 03:00 pm (UTC)I thought by this point I'd have stopped being resentful of the women who ruined my good time in fandom, but a little still lingers. Yadda yadda, first-world problems and all that...
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Date: 2011-05-18 03:22 pm (UTC)The bluntest (and maybe the most refreshing) review I read was here: http://www.badassdigest.com/2011/05/16/movie-review-pirates-of-the-caribbean-on-stranger-tides-is-shit (and I didn't embed the link because - that's the actual title of the review itself).
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Date: 2011-05-18 03:30 pm (UTC)Um, given that we were among the outcasts who dared to challenge the brilliance of movie two, what in the HELL would make you trust the squee of the fangirls?
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Date: 2011-05-18 03:47 pm (UTC)Although, just on Depp himself, I do think he's sold out for easy money at this point. When other actors glom onto a stagnant franchise, I don't usually have an opinion because I figure it's a job, and everybody likes job security - but we're talking about a guy who exhaustedly went out of his way to protest formula on film and the packaging of himself as a product. I wish some interviewer would ask him what the difference is between Fox and Cannell doing it to him 20 years ago, and Disney doing it to him now - other than the fact he personally is profiting more from it now.
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Date: 2011-05-19 02:51 pm (UTC)A Tale of Two Actors
Date: 2011-05-19 05:06 pm (UTC)In some ways, I see Tom Cruise as Johnny's antithesis. In one way, I think they're equally talented. (We are talking only about their careers here, not personal lives - that's my disclaimer.) They're about the same age, Cruise may have started acting a little earlier - and I've always thought maybe the only other white actor who could've played Sparrow as well would have been Cruise (yes, even from the beginning). He IS capable of interpreting characters colorfully - not the same way, of course, but I'd love to know what his Sparrow would've been like.
(Have you seen "Tropic Thunder?" It took me 2/3 of the movie to figure out that was Cruise parodying the Bruckheimer-type producer.)
Here's the antithesis part: If Cruise were doing POTC movie after movie, I wouldn't be surprised. He's never seemed to disdain big franchises or pretend to want to be anything other than universally paid and stared at. His philosophy seems to be opposite of what Depp has said his has always been, but Cruise also occasionally still goes in for smaller films - for fun, for credibility, for business goodwill, I don't know. I guess at this point I'm more impressed with Cruise professionally? Not sure.
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Date: 2011-05-17 01:18 am (UTC)Last week's EW flatly stated that the Will and Elizabeth story had come to a tidy conclusion with the end of the (first?) trilogy. (So much for "their story has yet to be told" or whatever it was.) And Johnny Depp himself was very critical of the excessive plotiness that made up DMC and AWE. *shrugs*
What he (or EW, I don't remember) had to say concerning Not!Will and his fishy friend makes me think OST is intended to be a 'JACK SPARROW And His Proper Girlfriend' vehicle. No overly complicated (or even at all interesting) side romances will be going on. That could just be Johnny Depp's slant on it. We'll see.
And I do have a free ticket, so I will be seeing it at the theater. At least the once. :-p
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Date: 2011-05-17 02:50 am (UTC)It'll be interesting to see! ;-)
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Date: 2011-05-17 03:32 am (UTC)For the record, I support Jack/Angelica! But I also still support my own one woman 'ship of Jack/Sarah. LOL
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Date: 2011-05-17 03:45 am (UTC)Yeah, that goat thing ... Hey, at least it was entertaining. *G*