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Why, no. Not at all. It is far better to squirrel away your annoyances and grievances until you let them fester into resentment and imagined slights, and instead simper and hint around once in a while that things might not be quite as good as they should be. We wouldn't want to be impolite or unladylike, after all.

Date: 2009-12-18 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirriamnis.livejournal.com
I think it depends on what you mean by honesty. Do I lie to my husband? No. Do I tell him everything that crosses my mind, like how many times during this last move I've wanted to cut him into chunks small enough to ship to Timbuktu? Also, no.

Date: 2009-12-18 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crevette.livejournal.com
Gee whiz, I wonder where THAT came from...

LOL.

Date: 2009-12-18 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
Oh, I don't know. Horses' asses too cowardly to tell you what's wrong until you chase them down for an answer? Relatives who insist that since they are never wrong, you must be the one eternally mistaken? Parents who refuse to discuss anything with you as a fellow adult unless it's to tell you what they want, and fuck-all what you think about it? Co-workers who withhold information that you NEED until either (a) the last minute or (b) you think to ask them about it, in the name of playing games, rather than producing the best possible work product?

There are a lot of places this could've come from this year. As I get closer to 2010, I review my year and can't help but notice every goddamn problem that's arisen has come from a lack of honesty when it would have mattered. (No, not with you or anyone on my f-list.)

Date: 2009-12-18 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
Ah, but that's with the understanding he doesn't say the same thing to you every time it crosses his mind, am I right? :-P

We're not talking about whether she looks fat in a dress or his hair on top is getting thin. These are the sorts of things, you know, that shouldn't affect any relationship if fudged about. (Sometimes they DO, but they shouldn't ...)

Date: 2009-12-18 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] virginia-fell.livejournal.com
Ha! Awesome.

Date: 2009-12-18 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immortal-jedi.livejournal.com
Well, I suppose you've earned a bit of harmless passive agressiveness...

No, I pretty much agree that honesty is very, very important.

Date: 2009-12-18 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
Only toward Dad; he's the only person who's caused me grief this year that I haven't completely told off. He'd better improve his behavior, too, or it's coming.

Date: 2009-12-18 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
*bows*

I'll be here 'til I die! :-D

Date: 2009-12-18 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gobsmacked.livejournal.com
Co-workers who withhold information that you NEED until either (a) the last minute or (b) you think to ask them about it, in the name of playing games, rather than producing the best possible work product?
If I didn't know better, I'd think we worked in the same place :-)

If I were a boss, I'd fire anyone that did this. In fact, I once had a boss who more or less did this. He was a crap manager, but he suspended an employee who withheld information to screw over a fellow worker because in doing so she screwed him over too. I love the smell of karma in the morning.

Date: 2009-12-18 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gobsmacked.livejournal.com
Honesty is better given directly to the subject of it than by a third party. By this I mean: if you have a beef with someone, it's best to tell them before it gets back to them via a third party. Particularly true if you value the relationship in any way.

Date: 2009-12-18 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pktaxwench.livejournal.com
...and with that statement, I believe you understand the life of an army wife better than you could ever know...

(I survived, BTW.)

Date: 2009-12-19 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
And I believe YOU understand growing up around my dad's family more than you could ever know. (I too survived - and got out as soon as I could.)

I read your post - was it that bad?

Date: 2009-12-19 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
In all seriousness, it's also better not to over-honestize when addressing someone directly - IF you value the relationship, that is. What I mean by that is, vocabulary is important. If you want to preserve a friendship, you can tell someone you're upset with them or their behavior without calling them names or using the harshest, nastiest language you can find.

Unless you're ending the friendship. Then it's totally acceptable. (But don't do this and expect the person to stay your friend!)

/not directed at you

Date: 2009-12-19 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-silver-rose.livejournal.com
I love that last line! *eg*

Date: 2009-12-19 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-silver-rose.livejournal.com
Yeps, it's best to be honest, but use discretion and all. Who at work has not been honest?

OT

Date: 2009-12-20 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gobsmacked.livejournal.com
Why can't edit comments in this post? I can edit them elsewhere. Enquiring mind wants to know.

Re: OT

Date: 2009-12-20 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
Well, you can't edit comments that have been replied to already ...

Date: 2009-12-20 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
Sure, tact and discretion are fine. I'm not against that at all. But don't hide things away and let it build to a point of detriment.

Re: OT

Date: 2009-12-20 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gobsmacked.livejournal.com
Ah. I think I spotted a typo or something.

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