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veronica_rich ([personal profile] veronica_rich) wrote2008-06-10 02:16 am

Wow (courtesy of [livejournal.com profile] angry_biscuit)

Um ... how fucking self-defeating can you be?

Seriously ... your female candidate loses, so instead of getting over it and voting for the next best thing being offered in this particular election to what you wanted, you're going for the senile white guy who wants to stay at war for 100 years, and privatize Social Security (among other things not desirable for minorities or people who earn under $200K a year, I assure you)?

A vote for McCain is a third term for Bush. Your choice. Pass it on.
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[personal profile] nobleplatypus 2008-06-10 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously... I know the campaign got a bit ugly, but people need to stop pretending that Obama and Clinton aren't 95% identical. I had lost a good deal of my good feeling towards Hillary by the end, but I'd cast a grudging vote for her LONG before chucking a spiteful vote to McCain. Christ.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I had lost a good deal of my good feeling towards Hillary by the end, but I'd cast a grudging vote for her LONG before chucking a spiteful vote to McCain.

I lost a good deal of my good feeling when she voted to approve the war in 2002 ... and then never retracted that or apologized for it being a mistake. (Which I still don't think she's done.) And then she lied about being shot at? Christ, if you're going to lie about something that DOESN'T MATTER, what will you do when Big Shit happens?

Despite that, yes, I still would have voted for her over McCain. That's what the bitter Hillaryists don't understand: I think *most* of us casting a Democratic vote in November are doing it mainly as an anti-Republican measure (which, my reason is that the party needs to go away and clean itself up for a while. BADLY. Nixon wouldn't recognize it now). So why would it be OK for Obama supporters to have to suck it up and vote for her (which I'm *certain* they would be pushing if she were getting the nom), but not in reverse?

Ah, yes - my old favorite, misogyny. I've said it before about fandom feminists - "I do not think that word means what you think it means."