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veronica_rich ([personal profile] veronica_rich) wrote2012-05-15 12:33 pm

amazing

Check out this news story about a Republican donor asking for his money back from the Romney campaign and switching sides. The notable part isn't the switching candidates - that can happen in the reverse, too, so it's not anything to gloat over - it's the quote down in the story about GOP advisors saying how it's risky for their candidates to continue to vociferously oppose gay marriage as it gains more acceptance. To be honest, I'm only 39, and I still didn't think this was anything I would see in my lifetime, given how big a part opposition to gay marriage played in getting Bush back into office just eight short years ago. (Yes, smearing Kerry's war record also played a part, but I try not to think about that considering he was IN Vietnam while Bush dodged his stateside military meetings as frequently as he could.)

[identity profile] pir8fancier.livejournal.com 2012-05-15 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
And guns. That played a big role, as well.

I think that if Obama weren't black, this election would be a slam dunk. The guy is definitely more centrist than previous Democrats have been in the past, even more conservative than Bill Clinton (although I don't think that was his true colors, but then our Bill is the supreme pragmatist). The economy is limping along, but it IS improving and inflation is flat. Confidence among home builders is higher than its been in five years. California is sucking, but what can I say. Fortunately, my kid is graduating so I don't have to deal with the fallout that will hit the schools if the tax initiative doesn't pass in the fall. Seriously, I think the hatred with which people view him is due to the color of his skin. And I think that he changed his stance on gay marriage because the White House realized that they'd lost those people ANYWAY. There was no speech, no uptick in the economy that would sway the haters. So he needed to make a big move that would win him over the blocs that have become disallusioned with him. The liberal wing of the Dem party. It might not win him the election, but it sure made the margins closer.

Essentially if Obama keeps playing this as a STATE right, then he might win over people who are not racist. What absolutely kills me is that all the economic bullshit that got us into this mess was incurred under a Republican administration. They sought to water down Dodd/Frank, they spent like crazy on these insane wars in the Middle East, and yet people keep thinking that this is a Dem problem. That Dems spent their way into a financial morass and let the Wall Street honchos play fast and loose with the market. WAKE UP, IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't you think it's heaven sent, that J.P. Morgan/Chase debacle? These people can't regulate themselves. It's essentially antithetical to their mission: to make money.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-05-15 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You know my opinion - anyone who still identifies as GOP at this point has more sentiment than sense.

[identity profile] pir8fancier.livejournal.com 2012-05-15 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, I wanted to add that the GOP could have had this election in the palm of their hand if they hadn't pandered to rabid right wing. It shoves the independents Obama's way. They stoked the flames of conservatism and divided their party all by their lonesome (shades of what the Dems have done in the past!), so that they have a weak candidate who appeals to no one. Essentially the GOP candidates are NOT voting for Romney, they are voting against Obama. That's a terrible position to be in going into a tight election.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-05-15 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, and we see what happens when that takes place. Very few people who vote for Bush in 2000 were voting FOR Bush; they were voting against Clinton and his blowjobs. Pure and simple. And boy, did we all have prosperity and peace from his opponents' moral victory!

[identity profile] beldar.livejournal.com 2012-05-15 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Kerry is a good comparison to Romney. So many people wanted an alternative to Bush but what we got was a character from the Monty Python "Upperclass Twit of the Year" sketch. So many of us held our noses and voted for him, while many others decided it was better the idiot we know than the idiot we don't know.

Fortunately for Obama, Romney seems to have been born with a silver foot in his mouth. But there are still plenty of people so afraid of the "Nigerian Muslim Socialist" that they would vote for Kim Jong Un if he were on the GOP ticket.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-05-15 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree that Kerry is a direct comparison to Romney. I think he has actual sense and, unlike Romney, has been in combat (that's not a dealbreaker but while we're at war, it's sure better than an open draft-dodger like Bush), so he knows what it's like. He did vote to authorize war powers in 2002, it's true, but said later that he regretted it (that's the part I had/have the hardest time forgiving, though). Kerry's biggest problem is that he had actual ideas to explain, but he didn't talk in sound bites, which is what televised news has reduced candidates to in the last five decades, to appeal to impatient doofuses used to making purchasing decisions on catchy ad jingles instead of, y'know, advice or a little research.

But that's just my opinion. ;-)