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veronica_rich ([personal profile] veronica_rich) wrote2011-02-01 02:59 pm

sneaky gits

John Boehner's push to redefine rape, as the article notes, isn't about rape at all - it's about restricting access to abortion, with an eye toward eliminating it altogether.

I could say a lot of things about this proposal, about the legislators behind it, about supporters of this backdoor measure. Instead, I'll just make two observations I've noticed about Republicans in power over the last decade, at least:

1. Anytime Republican legislators initiate something that they know will get a lot of media attention and stir up a bunch of uproar, it's usually as a cover for some other legislation they're trying to sneak through that they don't want anyone to notice ("Wag the Dog," anyone? It's not just a fun movie premise; it exists). Hard as it is to believe, the "disguised" legislation is usually worse, and often unrelated. I saw this happen during the war years of the last decade - the Bush administration and the predominantly Republican Congress would introduce one item, then as quickly as they could, throw something else out for people to deal with ... and then a third thing ... and so on and so forth. It's a form of torture designed to wear down opposition. People can generally deal crisis to crisis, but when they overlap, it becomes too much to handle, and they'll turn their attention to one thing and let the rest of the things slide past with little to no notice.

2. That's not to say the "cover" legislation - such as this rape definition thing - isn't also intended to actually go through. The Republicans are a sneaky lot, and while cruel, not stupid: If you're going to create a cover for something, why not design it to also screw as many people as possible? That way, it's not a wasted labor. But if this doesn't go through, they will at least expect that - it's always the disguised legislation that's the most important.

So, in this case - what else are the Republicans doing in Congress that they really don't want us to know about? (None of this is random hatred of Republicans; it's a legitimate observation I've made over several years now, related to my career, that has helped me sort of anticipate what will come next news-wise. I don't know if the Democrats don't do the same thing because (a) they haven't been in power enough to try it yet; (b) they're not clever/mercenary enough to carry it out; or (c) they have higher principles ... which, I kind of doubt this last one, since people are people, and there are Republican voters (and a very few Republican lawmakers) who have principles, so you have to concluded there are Democrats who are also unscrupulous.)

[identity profile] beldar.livejournal.com 2011-02-01 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
it's about restricting access to abortion, with an eye toward eliminating it altogether

The most frustrating thing is that no measure will "eliminate" abortion, just make it an underground activity. And since most people have no memory of pre-Roe days (strangely including some people who were around then), the perspective that this is possible is going to be hard to dispel. So as a method of achieving the impossible, sexist men get to set women's rights back a decade or two.

We have abortions because people want them and/or feel compelled to have them. Period. (Aside from occasional medical necessity.) And the self-righteous actually help perpetuate the problem, for as long as they consider pregnancies to be "mistakes" or "sins," then there will be a desire to eliminate the mistake or negate the sin.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2011-02-01 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I should have specified legal abortion, of course. Induced abortion goes back to the first time someone realized you could keep a fetus from developing and being born (and becoming a burden - which is exactly what a child is who is unwanted and/or uncared-for), which has to have been tens of thousands of years.

It really does seem that all these proposals have in common the ultimate goal of recreating a disparity between the sexes - and then wedging the difference even wider. Basically, women are being punished for existing, one, and two, for wanting the same freedoms and opportunities as men. Silly wimminz.
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[identity profile] the-dala.livejournal.com 2011-02-01 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh. I read that today and it was difficult to get through. Just the thought of a woman having to go through the process of "proving" "forcible" rape makes me want to throw up.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2011-02-01 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I admit my first thought was to hire a few thugs to show Boehner exactly what "forcible" looks like.

[identity profile] ysrith.livejournal.com 2011-02-01 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I cannot believe this is serious. I thought "forcible rape" was a term that certain romance novelists used to cover some dodgy non-con scenes in their books. I cannot believe that someone is trying to make a definition between the various types of rape. Thisis truly frightening

Not being rude here, but there are times when I wonder about the USA and the people in it when I see things like this.

[identity profile] captsparrow4evr.livejournal.com 2011-02-01 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Join the club - and I live here!:(

[identity profile] ysrith.livejournal.com 2011-02-01 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I did live in the US for a short while back in the 90s and one of the things that struck me was how backward attitudes towards women were, which really surprised me, as you know the USA was supposed to be far more progressive than simple old Ireland.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2011-02-02 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
We're not really all that progressive. We just have a disproportionate amount of the world's resources and up to now, have been able to control the message about how "great" we are.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2011-02-01 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
We seem very, very backwards in a lot of ways, and very forwards in a lot of others. I'm not sure why this is. My very rudimentary guess is that especially as of the post-WWII timeline, we Americans like to have a lot of stuff (which would explain the "forwards" part; the desire for new and necessary "toys" breeds technology) - but stuff gets made and marketed by corporations, and those corporations are sort of like modern-day plantations in that they function at their most profitable when they have cheap labor - and a steady supply of it. So it's in THEIR interest to keep the population as dumb and prolificly reproducing as possible, so there are always plenty of workers and not much questioning of immoral practices.

But that's just a guess. :-/
Edited 2011-02-01 21:16 (UTC)

[identity profile] ysrith.livejournal.com 2011-02-01 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I must admit I was very surprised when I lived in the US about the attitudes to women and race. I have always been under the impression that the USA was so modern and far ahead in these things, but that was not the case. People were still getting their heads around women doctors. And I was living in Philadelphia, not the Mid-West.

You are also right about the impact of corporations and the desire for commerical goods and satisfaction. Now, it could just be that I am a liberal European socialist, but there is no way I could live in that sort of society. I made that choice when I decided not to return to the US and practice medicine there.

[identity profile] bonnie-halfelvn.livejournal.com 2011-02-02 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
I think the biggest problem is the dominance of conservative Christianity. And I say that as a Christian. That informs the Republican agenda and attitudes towards women and gays. It's all a very fundamentalist "literal" Biblical interpretation. There are people behind the leaders whispering in their ears. The conservative Christian agenda has been worming its way into politics for decades. It has wound a web around the Republican party to the point that it is drastically changed from what it was even 30 years ago.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2011-02-02 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. That's because the Christian leaders have spent those decades convincing the Republican puppets that if they'd do the hardcore Christians' bidding, those leaders would deliver millions of votes by equating "Republicanism = Christianity." I was once at lunch at a local restaurant and in the next booth was a local minister eating with a couple of higher-ups in his church system, and he was bragging that he could tell his congregation to do anything and they would, happily, so long as he told them it was what Jesus ordered.

[identity profile] finding-neo.livejournal.com 2011-02-02 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my goodness, how could you keep your mouth shut to be hearing that???? I would have leapt all over that guy - not only what would Jesus do, but what would he think of you?

The hypocrisy among religious leaders is sickening, yet all the little sheep will gladly follow.

[identity profile] a-silver-rose.livejournal.com 2011-02-02 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
IMO, it's more symbiotic than that. The Republican Party willingly bedded down with the Christian right in the hopes of tapping into that voting block. They knew damn well what they were doing, and needed little, if any, "convincing". In other words, they whored themselves. What's sad is that some of them have seemed to realize the hole they've dug for themselves, and are now afraid of their bed partner.

[identity profile] solitaryraven.livejournal.com 2011-02-01 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
What I find most amusing/infuriating about this incredibly sickening and offensive push to redefine rake is that this comes less than a week after they went on and on about how they are going to focus entirely on "job creation" and the "economy." Yet redefining rape has been moved to the top of the priority pile? Really?

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2011-02-02 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
The only thing you can count on from the current incarnation of the Republicans is they're going to do what the extremists of their base demand - because they're the only ones with the time to call and screech and demand over and over that they get their way.

[identity profile] finding-neo.livejournal.com 2011-02-02 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Does anyone else get the creeps when they look at Boehner? Seriously. I had to stop watching the State of the Union because he was such a creeper. He looked like he was trying to figure out how he could hit Obama upside the head, or worse, and get away with it.

[identity profile] a-silver-rose.livejournal.com 2011-02-02 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Another possible example of a hidden agenda, if not a hidden proposed bill: If memory serves, wasn't it a Republican who introduced the mandatory purchase of health insurance into the federal health care law which Florida has now declared unconstitutional because of that provision?