veronica_rich | Yeah, I can tell it's May ...

Yeah, I can tell it's May ...

This makes the second troll my Will community has attracted from

sparrabeth in the past month. (You've gotta scroll to the bottom of those pages for it.) Why do I think that? Oh, I don't know - just a hunch.

This wasn't a criticism of my writing style (which would be fair). It was simply an excuse to anonymously bitch in a minority forum and denounce anything that takes fan focus off Jack and/or Elizabeth.

And no, neither of these comments are particularly horrifying, but as it gets closer to May 23 and some J/E fans get meaner about not getting their way ... well, I haven't lived this long not to spot a problem a mile away. I don't want to have to resort to disabling anonymous commenting in a fan forum. Are there any community mods on my f-list who have dealt with this, with advice? I already made a short post asking "visitors" to the comm to be respectful of the members there, but I wonder if it'll work.

Geez o pete. I didn't realizing having a Will community would be like disagreeing with the Mafia! LOL

Seriously, I keep reading how J/E fans are so much older and more mature than us "13-year-old hormonal" Will/Orlando fans. Me no think so.

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In all honesty, I like all of the characters - some better than others, but I don't "hate" any of them. This especially goes for disliking someone because of their fan preferences.

In other words, the "mafia" can suck it.

I think, given the sort of intense "loyalty" that certain members of the sparrabeth community have displayed over the last few months, you are either stuck with disabling anonymous comments (which is the easiest and, frankly, because I hate the anonymity of hate, my preferred solution) or just ignoring the trolls who post here. I think asking for respect is like farting in a windstorm. The people who are going to be respectful don't need to be told and the people who are NOT, could care less. IMO.

I think disabling anonymous comments is probably the best way to prevent trolling.

Going to go back to writing my Mary Sue fics now...

Hormonal? Yes. 13 years old? Not since before the original "Star Wars" came out (long before it was relabeled "A New Hope" or Greedo shot first.;)

Personally, I don't understand Will hate at all, unless you take it as an unconscious acknowledgement that Will and Elizabeth are in some fashion rivals for Jack's affections. As for getting meaner when one doesn't get one's way, well, it's a good thing most of us slashers aren't like that. I guess this means we'll have to go easy on the gloating when J/E dies its expected death. This is Disney after all.

I didn't see anything inflamatory about the latest comment. I was confused by what they were referring to as 'rude.' As to the first comment, it's sad when people have to disguise their identity for a comment such as that. More than anything, it shows that the poster knows that they are just being vindictive. My one and only troll played that game on ff.net, reading through tons of my work, bashing it with such creative jibes as 'you use too many commas!' etc. until I required sigs. Then I got cryptic comments in cyrillic. Surprise, surprise, putting it through babblefish, I got more mundane editorial comments cloaked in the language of an irate and vicious 13 year old. Anyway, that was a rant- but it sounds like there's a few people out there with axes to grind.

I'd disable anonymous comments, for sure.

I don't understand the Will hate that's out there -- he's a great character, and my preference would be for all of them to end up together, somehow. But the filmmakers messed that up pretty thoroughly.

But that's why we have fanfic, isn't it? ;)

I was going to post this in the comm but I figured that it would just start more problems since it's bashing, but anyway...

J/E fans? Mature?!?! HA! I'm completely overgeneralizing and there are plenty of JEers that are extremely thoughtful and mature, but the vast majority of them, at least those at KTTC, are some of the most immature fans that I've ever seen of any pairing, and I don't even go into the JE threads or anything. They take out their frustrations on everyone just because they think that their ship is the most popular (yeah right, for every person the JE stuff in DMC converted, there are another three people that turned against the movies because of it) and because deep down they know that they don't have a prayer. If TnT had meant for it to be JE, they would have done so in the first movie since it was originally supposed to stand alone.

There are a couple of ways of handling such incidents. You could have quoted Johnny on Jack's penchant for 'rogering the cabin boy'. *G* However, it was fairly mild to be honest.

Disabling anon. comments is the best troll-proofing there is. And definitely make it clear in the comm profile that flames, etc. won't be permitted. Other than that, the only way to handle them is bluntly. I had to do it a couple of times at

pirategasm and found it is best, as a mod, to stay cool but be very clear. In this situation, you are further hampered by being the author so I'd just ignore it. If you start getting more and more Sparrabeth garbage, just ask 'em why they are complaining about slash on a slash comm, aye?

Yuck. It’s deeply irritating to see these playground antics. If I had ever seen any watertight argument from the rabid J/E fans (I stress, not those who are rational, sane people) to actually justify their Will-hate, well, then I’d probably have already thought of that argument already, and would have my own misgivings about his character. (Which I don’t.) As it is, I’ve never seen anything other than a pile of bitchy pre-school shite which isn’t capable of expressing anything any more sophisticated than, ‘I hate him, because I do, so ner. And I hate you, too.’. Lordy, none of this is real, no one has actually died, and it’s supposed to be fun, dammit! Hell, I don’t know who any of them are, same as I don’t know who any of you are, but it doesn’t mean that I’m about to treat anyone with a distinct lack of manners, and it’s a shame that other people think that it’s ok to be disrespectful to that degree.
It’s a pity that everyone’s fun gets tainted by posters who are cowardly and (heh) rude, oh, and let’s not forget illogical. Yep, disable anonymous posts. Grr.

Rant completed.

You know, before DMC I always had a thing for J/E. I thought they'd make an interesting, if explosive, pairing. But my goodness! Since it became canon, the wank has gotten ridiculous. *hides in the J/E closet*
Ah, well. I was always an outandproud Turrow girl anyway. They've always had my true love.

But what on earth is wrong with Will? Why all the hate for him? I just don't understand. Is it because he's somehow a threat to a J/E relationship? Personally, if I had the choice of two hot guys who both wanted me I'd ...(well I'd want them do do each other) BUT I don't see why it's an issue. If that makes sense. So, Liz could be with two guys. Where is the down side in that?

I bet everyone's cranky because they know it's Disney and they won't get their way. I'm sorry someone had to commentvomit on your fic.

<3

You already know how I feel about it. Anonymity is too tempting for the trolls who are most likely to abuse it.

I hope it doesn't get worse. I can't help feeling you may have just let them know they can get to you. (Me? Paranoid?) I guess we'll find out. :-p

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