ext_3004 ([identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] veronica_rich 2006-08-13 03:43 pm (UTC)

I also noticed that when Jack returns to the Pearl to shoot the 'splodey barrels, Elizabeth does this weird thing where she reclines on the stairs and clasps herself to his leg in a manner which recalled dozens of tacky submissive romance novel covers to mind, in a moment of delirious, amused horror....

You *just* noticed that? We call that her Princess Leia moment (remember the vintage SW poster where she's kneeling, leaning against Luke's leg as he holds the saber aloft?). I can't figure out if it's to steady Jack in case the Kraken reaches up for him - as it did for her ankles - or if it really is some bodice-ripping thing. I wouldn't be surprised at the second, simply because we've already had Jack ripping her bodice anyway.

probably because I was just so damn delighted that she was taking on a more active role

Now, now, you're going to bring the Wrath of the Feminazis down on us. Seriously, I didn't have a problem with her wanting to participate in the voyage and the ass-kicking. I didn't even have a problem in the first movie with the whole triangle thing with her and Norrie and Will, because it was believable. But, OMG, THIS MOVIE NEEDS OTHER WOMEN so that the other males can Get Some and quit trying to dive into HER knickers. I'm *sure* the writers intend for her to be Empowered Chick, but the real net effect is that Elizabeth is no more out of a traditional female role in THESE movies than in any other.

Dammit, I LIKED the old relationship between her and Jack, of mutual guarded respect. The more I've seen their smoochy-smoochiness, the more I want to shake the writers and ask "What the FUCK were you thinking?" Can't a woman have a businesslike relationship with an older man that stays businesslike? Or does the man have to be evil and ugly and beyond wanting to fuck (Barbossa) for that to be the case? Then again, we'll probably get Elizabeth trying to lure him into her pants in 3 ...


And no, for any homophobic anonymous fucks who might be reading this, I don't give two rips about this "effect" on my 'ship of choice. J/W was never canon, so why would this matter if W/E didn't? Not every plotline in the world has to come back to who wants to fuck whom, which is precisely my continued, ranting point.

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