There's an exchange between Norrington and Will who both have Jack at swordspoint that is highly illuminating. Let me know if you want to hear it.
You could do that, or just post the gist of it herein, if that's easier for you. I trust your summary skills. :-D
Your comment actually came through 3 times, so it looks like you did okay (well, this one is partial, but the other 2 came through intact). I may reply more in full later on, but I think I can cover your other points herein:
You may not have read all the comments all the way through this entire post. It is noted - by me and others - that this is surely not the thrust of the movie. This is the problem a fan runs into, however, when she doesn't want to know the full extent of everything that's happening in the movie (spoilers!) and chooses instead to speculate based on what little she's seen and read bandied about. (And, along with that, reads what OTHER people are saying they've read in spoilers, right or wrong.)
As for fanfic relationships - I also note elsewhere in here that I realize that's not going to happen. I think 99.9 percent of fanfic writers are sane enough to know what they come up with is NOT going to be pulled into canon, especially if it involves a same-sex relationship (even in this day and age it's of limited usage in entertainment, especially by a studio like Disney). Frankly, it's more fun for us fanficcers to hew to the subversive - at least that's why I'm not bothered not to see Jack/Will onscreen.
At any rate, that's not what bothered me about the kiss - what bothered me was the idea that Jack is somehow being written as less intelligent or perceptive than in the first movie. That's part of what I love about the character! I just don't want to see him "dumbed down" in the name of dramatic/sexual tension, you know? And while I understand for her time, sex is one of the few weapons Elizabeth has at her disposal, what I liked about her in the first movie is she didn't play dumb and didn't use her body/looks more than necessary. To even *think* she would try to continually lead Jack around by the dick, and that he would ALLOW it - that's what annoyed me, because it's not in their character, IMO.
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You could do that, or just post the gist of it herein, if that's easier for you. I trust your summary skills. :-D
Your comment actually came through 3 times, so it looks like you did okay (well, this one is partial, but the other 2 came through intact). I may reply more in full later on, but I think I can cover your other points herein:
You may not have read all the comments all the way through this entire post. It is noted - by me and others - that this is surely not the thrust of the movie. This is the problem a fan runs into, however, when she doesn't want to know the full extent of everything that's happening in the movie (spoilers!) and chooses instead to speculate based on what little she's seen and read bandied about. (And, along with that, reads what OTHER people are saying they've read in spoilers, right or wrong.)
As for fanfic relationships - I also note elsewhere in here that I realize that's not going to happen. I think 99.9 percent of fanfic writers are sane enough to know what they come up with is NOT going to be pulled into canon, especially if it involves a same-sex relationship (even in this day and age it's of limited usage in entertainment, especially by a studio like Disney). Frankly, it's more fun for us fanficcers to hew to the subversive - at least that's why I'm not bothered not to see Jack/Will onscreen.
At any rate, that's not what bothered me about the kiss - what bothered me was the idea that Jack is somehow being written as less intelligent or perceptive than in the first movie. That's part of what I love about the character! I just don't want to see him "dumbed down" in the name of dramatic/sexual tension, you know? And while I understand for her time, sex is one of the few weapons Elizabeth has at her disposal, what I liked about her in the first movie is she didn't play dumb and didn't use her body/looks more than necessary. To even *think* she would try to continually lead Jack around by the dick, and that he would ALLOW it - that's what annoyed me, because it's not in their character, IMO.