I think the distinction I'm seeing and that you're not seeing....
Well, it's agreed that without conception, the baby does not exist--never exists, never will exist. Never will know if it is wanted or not because it never was.
Where we differ, though, is that you see ending the pregnancy partway through as just an extension of that--of the kid just not existing. What I see, though, is the kid existing and then dying--therefore, no, if you or I had been aborted, we would not know whether we were unwanted because we didn't exist in the present time. An aborted fetus did, however, exist at one time--just as anyone who has died at any age existed but is no longer here to know this or that. An aborted fetus is someone who has died...hmm. I'm on the verge of new clarity with this, but it's not quite there.
Apologies for the snark, but it's become a bit frustrating to express my own views on these things when I spend most of the time in Boulder, where they call anyone and everyone who disagrees a redneck. In the past these sort of debates have become quite heated. I honestly don't know why I still join in because it's just absolutely miserable when it gets to that.
Also always upsetting to have folks talk about Christians as if we were all psycho Bible-thumping hypocrites. After reading the comments on here...le grr. Gets me going.
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Date: 2006-04-29 05:46 am (UTC)Well, it's agreed that without conception, the baby does not exist--never exists, never will exist. Never will know if it is wanted or not because it never was.
Where we differ, though, is that you see ending the pregnancy partway through as just an extension of that--of the kid just not existing. What I see, though, is the kid existing and then dying--therefore, no, if you or I had been aborted, we would not know whether we were unwanted because we didn't exist in the present time. An aborted fetus did, however, exist at one time--just as anyone who has died at any age existed but is no longer here to know this or that. An aborted fetus is someone who has died...hmm. I'm on the verge of new clarity with this, but it's not quite there.
Apologies for the snark, but it's become a bit frustrating to express my own views on these things when I spend most of the time in Boulder, where they call anyone and everyone who disagrees a redneck. In the past these sort of debates have become quite heated. I honestly don't know why I still join in because it's just absolutely miserable when it gets to that.
Also always upsetting to have folks talk about Christians as if we were all psycho Bible-thumping hypocrites. After reading the comments on here...le grr. Gets me going.