I don't want to confuse the Elizabeth fans. There are at least two distinct groups: Those who actually like her and would like her regardless of the other characters, and don't need to bash anyone else to like her. Then there are those whom I suspect don't necessarily like her so much as they like her *better* than a character they hate. And that's hard to fathom, especially since I can make a list of reasons for being annoyed with Elizabeth, and I still don't hate her (although I admit I have stated once or twice that, given the choice between James and Will dying, or her, I've shamefully picked her).