I think every place has its immaturity. What gets me, though, is at 34 I know I'm no gum-popping adolescent looking for McDreamy (no offense to Patrick Dempsey - I mean as a general term), nor am I alone in my geriatric-ness in the Orlando fan community - and yet, there are so many J/E fans who absolutely *pride* themselves on being older, more mature than us, etc. Truth be told, I don't really think there's any age difference, and there's certainly no reason for them to talk down to us.