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From my fabulous younger sister, who sent me the CNN news alert this morning along with a personal message ("Well, I wonder how Bush is going to try to screw us now ..."), we have an update on the proposed gay marriage amendment. Why does this matter particularly to the childfree? Think about it (the bolded parts, aside from the headline, are my emphasis):

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For the link-impaired: Senate Blocks Same-Sex Marriage Ban )

Do Americans really care who has sex with what for recreation, or how? Porn is still one of the most bottom-line profitable industries in this country. We have a state that has kept hookers legal. Bestiality is a much joked-about (though perhaps not practiced - I really don't know) pastime among college males. The "GGW" acronym continues to get plenty of husbands in trouble when the credit card statement comes in at the end of the month.

Ah, but a friend points out that tolerating sexual preferences does not extend to sanctification of it in society. No society, she tells me, has ever tolerated or recognized marriage between two people of the same sex (though I have to wonder, do the poly male Mormons who force their wives to all live together consider their wives married to one another as well as to them? At least for orthodox Muslims, Mohammed dictated a man should not take more than one wife unless he could afford an equal number of households). Canada now has a conservative PM partly because its citizens are disgusted with that recent legalization, she tells me.

Look at what I've bolded in the article above. I, at least, get the distinct impression that what is actually being hammered on isn't so much sexual preference as preservation of the nuclear family - that is, mother, father, AND CHILDREN. Is it a matter of time before these witch hunters come after those who've actively chosen not to have children, as being "unnatural" too? Yeah, it sounds like a silly persecution complex. I really do wonder, though, if it's simply a coincidence that the two big issues conservatives use to bring out the "emotional vote" at election time are the two geared toward pushing BABIES, BABIES, OMG ABOVE ALL ELSE BABIES: anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion (and, lately, anti-BC). And let's not forget, most conservatives who are anti-abortion are also anti-gay adoption of unwanted children. Because, you know, gays are all pedophiles who want to use all available young meat for fucktoys.

Maybe I'm the last person to figure out this angle on the gay marriage thing. It's simply an epiphany I had. I have no problem with children; shit, I grew up helping take care of my sister and cousins. I don't even have much of a problem with people who try to bingo me with "oh, you'll change your mind, you'll want them" even when I know at almost 34 that I never do. I do have a problem, however, with this "YOU MUST REPRODUCE OR FOREVER KEEP YOUR KNEES TOGETHER" being forced on women through the hammer of the law - social pressure to do something isn't the same as being mandated by law into doing it.

I believe we need limits on marriage to protect social structures like land ownership and inheritance. But I'm thinking of poly marriage, which has a proven tendency in many cases to reduce some of the partners to breeding chattel (let's face it, can you really have more than one favorite?). I do not think the human reproductive drive is going to slow to a grinding halt simply because Susie wants to marry Fern instead of Johnny. There's nothing that says Susie won't still want to pop out six kids. Our society hasn't outlawed single mothers or fathers; why is it worse for a child to have two female or two male caretakers, than simply one?
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A politically-minded friend calls me this morning and leaves me a voice mail that she's watched the early-morning news and talk shows and yes, indeed, it seems the Republicans ARE going to trot out the tired old dog-and-pony show of anti-gay marriage yet again for the mid-term elections this year, by putting forth a federal amendment proposal. (Spectators will remember this is how they retained Congress and the White House in 2004.)

The sad part? I'm sure it'll work.

So, to summarize: Economy is in the toilet, thousands of our own soldiers, civilian contractors, and Iraqi citizens have been killed in a war over false pretenses, energy prices are nearly 300 percent of what they were just over six years ago, we're considered the most dangerous nation on Earth by almost every civilized country, we've lost allies left and right in the past six years - and the semenal issue facing our nation is to make certain every matched set is pepper-and-salt, with no deviation in that combination.

Fabulous. (And there were no typographical errors in the above.)

For this next bit, I think only the fandom folks will "get" and appreciate it ...

There's a local truck that drives around town here, just a small diesel cab with a small back compartment - sort of like a Schwann delivery truck. It's painted black and has a red-scarf-tressed Jolly Roger skull with two wrenches crossed behind it, called "Pirate Tools." I was having my oil changed today, and the truck pulls into my mechanic's. I asked the driver about his business - he said he drives around selling tools, supplying those who want to buy them as a mobile business.

"So," says I, "when did you start your business?"

"About two years ago."

"How'd you come up with the name?"

"My daughter suggested it."

A thought crept into the back of my head. "How old is she?"


Pause. "Did she get it from-?"

Nod. "She loves that DVD, watches it all the time."

I was in a happy spot. :-D
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I won't make this terribly long, because I know people tend to read shorter, to-the-point posts than long, rambling ones, for the most part. Especially on political/sociological issues.

You need to understand that I am not opposed to same-sex marriage. I feel if you're going to allow two adults to marry, you need to allow two ADULTS - any two adults - to marry. My friends and family know this about me - whether they think I'm straight or gay is their own wonderings and I don't particularly care. (I am not gay. To me it's just a matter of fairness for all.)

A friend with whom I debate about this often (she is not in favor of gay marriage, for secular legal and personal reasons, but not for religious reasons) tells me today about a story she saw on the TV news about poly marriage. It featured a man and two women who were quoting Bible verse to justify polygamy in marriage, and saying if government allows gay marriage, it has to allow poly marriage as well.

Personally, I have no problem placing a limitation on marriage to only two adults. I don't view polygamy at all the same as a union of two people, mainly for interaction-dynamics principles on a psychological level. I won't get into all my thoughts on it; suffice it's not because of a moral imperative, it's because of practicality and property-transfer issues.

I'd be interested to know what people on my f-list think of same-sex marriage, hetero marriage, and poly marriage. Any opinion you'd like to post about it.


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